This is one of my worries with adapting to a non standard layout. My work means I'm constantly on different devices and machines so I need to be able to use a normal keyboard and windows. Using Linux is already making the windows part frustrating.
If you're constantly switching, you have have issues.
If you're needing to physically type on different machines, you could try hasu's USB2USB device, which is a programmable dongle that sits between the keyboard and computer and applied whatever layout you want.
My speed on row-staggered QWERTY non-split keyboards is pretty much the same as before. Maybe it's because I switch to Colemak a few weeks after switching to split columnar keyboards. I think that they are just separate in my head now. Similar to how learning to use split keyboards didn't erase my memory of how to ride a bike.
I have 2 very different modes:
- typing with 5 fingers looking at the keyboard on classical keyboards.
- touch typing with bépo layout on my split 40% keyboards
That's two different things, like riding a bicycle and a motorcycle.
So, I never learned how to touch type on a standard QWERTY layout. When I got into ergo splits I need to learn how to touch type and decided to take the opportunity to learn an alternative layout. I chose Colemak DH.
Now I have two types of muscle memory. One that’s a janky peck style typing for QWERTY, the other pure touch typing for Colemak split keyboards.
Lol, are you me? Same story.
I am at the beginning of the same journey I think - a big part of why I never learned to touch type was how uncomfortable standard keyboards are. It always felt like trying to get my body to do something really stressful and unnatural, no matter how much I practiced, and I would get a lot of pain when typing.
I'm going whole hog on learning once my new board gets in - fully ergonomic split, column staggered, tenting, most likely Colemak DH, and we'll see if we can make this ish work!
I find it hard to adapt to ergo split keyboard (moonlander).
But I’m making a lot of typo on my wooting so maybe I just need to power through the moonlander until I am use to it.
I can switch between split and traditional row staggered (if the row staggered board is not a mechanical keyboard. Apparently my muscle memory for row staggered mechanical keyboards is messed up)
But I don’t like to use a „normal“ keyboard. Everything feels far apart and only reachable by weird hand motions. I got used to having everything in reach thanks to layers
It's not TOO bad. I am now forced to go back to the office once a week to sit in calls at the office instead of at home, which means that day I have to sit on my laptop in meeting rooms talking to TVs (yes, I hate that) and use the MacBook keyboard. It's not the worst or hardest thing ever, but my wife has made fun of me for not remembering where the print screen key is on a full size. So there's that.
I have started adding splits to each of the computers at home though. But honestly it's kinda harder to use different split layouts more than moving between split and what we should call "bad" keyboards :)
Aside from the forced wrist pronation of standard keyboards, it’s always the pesky square brackets and parenthesis that mess with me when I switch.
I will say I have it on my radar to build a Ferris Sweep with ZMK and hotswap Choc sockets; between watching Ben Vallack's excellent videos (thanks Ben!) and watching, "34 Keys is All You Need" - introduced me to the idea of using the Sweep with the Miryoku layout. As someone who spends all day either conducting workshops, interviewing clients where we type a mountain of notes, or turning those interviews and workshops into reports that extend into the multi-dozens of pages it appeals to me as seriously efficient and very travel friendly. Anyone have experience with said combo?
I don't use the sweep but I actually have plans to build that on next! But I do use 34 keys only and I love it. It is an incredibly comfortable experience and I really can't imagine going back to non-programmable boards without layers. It does take time to get used to but once you do its kinda game changing.
I daily drive my Moonlander for a good 95% if not more and when I go to the office once a week, I just bring the laptop.
I miss some automation and shortcuts but it's not that terrible after the first 10 minutes of typing.
I do miss my Moonlander at work and I'm able to carry it with but I'm also lazy. 😊
After my kyria went dark, I had to type on a KBD candybar at work. and a logitech keyboard at home. The candybar is annoying but the non mechanical logitech is killing my hands. So I say the adjustment is not as bad if its mechanical, I can survive. But not a non-mechanical one, my hand muscles are sore after half a day.
Edit: I used to just carry my Kyria with me wherever I work since its so portable, which probably contributed to its demise...
It just takes me a minute or less to get back into a normal keyboard. Unless that keyboard has shitty switches. Like laptops or cheap keyboards. I never stop hating the mush when I use them.
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Ergonomic, split and other weird keyboards
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Some useful links
- EMK wiki
- Split keyboard compare tool
- Compare keycap profiles Looking for another set of keycaps - check this site to compare the different keycap profiles https://www.keycaps.info/
- Keymap database A database with all kinds of keymap layouts - some of them fits ergo keyboards - get inspired https://keymapdb.com/