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ELI5 How Pete i am a moron Hegseth can go after Mark Kelley and threaton to pull his pension? I thought when you served long enough no one could take it from you or privledges?? (lemmy.world)
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[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Petey Piss-in-his-pants Kegsbreath is attempting to revoke Captain Mark Kelly's pension on "serious charges." Keggy boy thinks Astronaut Kelly reciting the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) reminding active duty soldiers they should disobey ILLEGAL orders is somehow seditious (rebellious, act against authority) behavior. Spoiler: It is not, WhiskeyLeaks is just trying to set the stage for impressionable soldiers that you will be punished if you don't do what they tell you no matter what. CAPTAIN Kelly is fighting to squash that notion.

Edit: to answer your question, pensions are generally safe but in the event of serious actions it can be revoked.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

reminding active duty soldiers they should disobey ILLEGAL orders

Not even that they should they're required to by law. Ultimately this will go to a military court and hopefully thrown out. I guess that depends on how deep the Trump regime has control of the military.

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Consider the absurd: you served in the US military long enough to earn a pension, then left the country and joined an evil terrorist organization waging violent war against the USA.

Should the US still need to pay out your pension, or should there be a way to cancel or suspend it for your treasonous acts?

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It seems like that call should be made by the court or Congress, not unilaterally by your former employer.

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Not that senator Kelly is at all being fairly treated by the facists in charge, mind you. But the lever they're pulling is one that exists for an intentional reason.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Is there any form of due process involved, or is this decision made solely by the incompetent, alcoholic, sycophantic nazi that came into a leadership position after the fact?

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago

So, rephrasing, they were in a terrosit organisation destroying the world, left that one with a pension and joined another ? Quite the conundrum

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hegseth will lose this case and he knows it. It’s just bluster. He’s even said the same thing he’s supposedly mad at Kelley for saying.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/08/politics/hegseth-trump-warned-unlawful-orders-kfile

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

The point of the rules is to advantage conservatives, if a rule is getting in the way of a conservative what is the use of it?

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

He is untouchable. He's retired, he's free to do whatever he wants. Hegseth is trying to do a 3D chess move by saying that since we are in an emergency situation, he can call Kelly back to active duty and while being in active duty, he can be court martialed for insubordination for saying bad things about Trump. It's a complete BS move that won't work.