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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unfortunately it's currently legal for "law enforcement" to use facial recognition technology on anyone without any restriction or oversight. If the republic survives long enough this should be a high priority to outlaw.

I also want to emphasize how incredibly stupid or malicious the question "where were you born?" is. He is either unaware or deliberately ignoring that millions of US citizens and documented immigrants were born abroad yet have an unassailable legal right to be here.

PS: kudos to this person for standing firm on her right to refuse to ID. Fascist "Papers please" goons can get fucked.

It's terrible that she has to, but so good that she stands her ground and doesn't answer their question where she was born, which is meant to create a defensible suspicion post-facto for the illegal stop. And despite the threats that they're going to "put her in the car" and ID her, they end up walking away.

Also, they take her picture presumably to run it through their facial recognition app and if they ID she was not a US citizen, they likely would use the interaction to claim she falsely IDed herself as a US citizen and arrest her on that basis, even if she didn't have an existing basis for ICE action.

These people are the worst scum.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 18 points 1 month ago

For anyone curious, the app on the ICE agent's phone is an app called Mobile Fortify.

It's able to tap into all kinds of different federal databases that contain your biometric data, from ID photos to the facial recognition cameras you might have seen pop up at TSA checkpoints or at the boarding area for your flight. (you can, and absolutely should request to opt-out of these when presented with them, as not only is it perfectly legal to do so, but it can often take less time)

You're not allowed to decline to be scanned (according to ICE, which does whatever it wants), it can also store fingerprint data, and your photo will be stored for 15 years, even if you weren't matched to a record saying you were here illegally or had a deportation order.

ICE has stated that if the app shows a match, they consider it 'definitive,' and will then ignore any other evidence to the contrary provided by the person, including a birth certificate.

So far, there has already been at least one known case of a U.S. citizen being deported based on a faulty facial recognition scan through the app.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Do you remember decades of obnoxious Americans boasting about freedom, democracy, leader of the free world, the end of history, a shining city on a hill etc...

Yeah.

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Pride before the fall.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 4 points 1 month ago

Atleast after the war my child can use the metric system.