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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 5 days ago (9 children)

the whole idea that discussing politics is lame is a neoliberal brainworm.

Don't discuss politics with your family, just enjoy the time! — okay weird but sure

Don't talk politics with your friends — what the hell why not

No politics at work — that's a deeply political place wtf are we doing

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The only place to discuss politics is the same place we're supposed to talk about gun violence.

A concrete, soundproof bunker that you need to climb a 60-foot ladder down to seal yourself inside, ensure nobody is around, and whisper your grievances into a small vinyl bag, then tie the bag up with a zip-tie and place it inside a mason jar and return it to the shelf inside the bunker.

This is how you protest as an American if you want to follow established societal norms and etiquette. Anything else and it's between 4 and 10 gunshots to the chest, face and back.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

When people say no politics, that means no arguing. This applies to office politics, family politics, and of course government politics.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

which ends up just meaning the racist uncle gets to shout his opinion and don't you dare tell him he is wrong.

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[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 3 points 4 days ago

The no arguing thing is key. Everyone eventually finds a topic that they don't agree on, because politics, in the greek philosophy (aristotle based) sense of the word (I actually loved nicomachean ethics), is about the pursuit of the good life writ large. The chances of two people believing in the exact same life goals is almost zero, so there will be a fundamental disagreement at some point that, because we are talking about using governmental authority as a cudgel (in the modern sense of the word politics) to bring about a 'good life' for society, will cause a lot of friction.

In environments where we can't control who we interact with, and that are semi-public with an 'audience,' such as work and family dinners, it's just easier to say no politics and focus on the agreed areas of shared interests. Otherwise those little frictions can build into socially driven, highly charged arguments.

Keep political discussions to where everyone can easily walk away, where it's one-on-one, or where everybody comes wanting to talk politics, and things are fine.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 11 points 5 days ago (5 children)

U don't discuss politics at work cos it's a politically unwise move that will alienate about 50% of people. That's the only one that makes sence

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

Here's the caveat.

You CAN talk to your peers and people you work with who don't outrank you or can get you fired. In fact, this is important. You just have to know how to toe the line and not come off as some kind of radical who will push people away.

Most people I work with are DYING to express something or rant or rave about how unfair or frightening this current immigration thing is, but are afraid to broach the topic. If you just know how to ask questions and listen people will open up to you.

You don't DECLARE your politics on a Zoom call with your mid-level manager, you ASK people how they're doing in one-on-one calls or while having lunch together, and while people are feeling friendly or vulnerable and you give them support whatever they say, while explaining your feelings even if they run counter to theirs. You can turn people this way, but more often than not you will find allies.

It IS risky, I wouldn't promote it, I'm just saying it's not quite as hot-firepoker of an issue as many people think. (Your results may vary depending on your industry, state you work in, and skin color.)

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Maybe fifty percent need to be alienated.

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[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don't yell about politics in the work place. Just complaining about straw men is tiring.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

sure, let's just finish our grueling shift during repression by the gestapo in silence.

nothing to see here, i don't wanna upset the colleagues with such nonsense like "politics"

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

105% of the time when someone in a public space says "Let's not talk politics" or "Let's not make this political" they are horrible MAGA-aligned morons or incel chuds who have outrageously stupid or hateful ideals.

That's really curious isn't it. I don't think I've ever seen the reverse, you absolutely never see someone start spouting anti-equality BS in a game subreddit and all the leftists go "whoa whoa, this isn't the place for that, can't we all just enjoy our games without making it political."

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I've said it when I know I'm next to some maga idiot and it's we either don't talk politics or SippyCup catches himself a felony

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

105% of the time when someone in a public space says “Let’s not talk politics” or “Let’s not make this political” they are horrible MAGA-aligned morons or incel chuds who have outrageously stupid or hateful ideals.

Might just be where I'm from, but they're more often neoliberal "don't rock the boat" ghouls who care more about profits than any kind of ideological mission. Shit can suddenly get very political when it scratches their personal itch. They just don't want anyone else arguing about politics when they should be putting up billables.

you absolutely never see someone start spouting anti-equality BS in a game subreddit and all the leftists go “whoa whoa, this isn’t the place for that, can’t we all just enjoy our games without making it political.”

Not in those words, but I definitely hear the periodic "okay, tone it down, this is different" whenever a hobby treads into the problematic. The fall-back line of "No such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism" was a balm for whatever it is you were doing that wasn't ideologically kosher.

On the flip side, I've seen people blow up at one another over a political divide - even a purely rhetorical one (arguing whether Dark Elves or Orcs are a racist trope, complaining about the implications of Monopoly or Catan, getting on a high horse about a popular movie or song). The debate over whether "Let It Snow" condones date rape is a popular college age struggle session.

Eventually people just don't want to hear it rehashed for the thousandth time.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

On the flip side, I’ve seen people blow up at one another over a political divide - even a purely rhetorical one (arguing whether Dark Elves or Orcs are a racist trope, complaining about the implications of Monopoly or Catan, getting on a high horse about a popular movie or song). The debate over whether “Let It Snow” condones date rape is a popular college age struggle session.

Oh my god! Yes, you can look at orcs and goblins as racist tropes and stand ins, and those can be fun campaigns to run and explore alternative takes and deep reflective moments, but sometimes it's just easier to say the group wants a kick-in-the-door style dungeon crawl and the enemies are evil.

Also, wasn't the debate over 'baby, it's cold outside,' not 'let it snow?'

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So, I need to annoy people more is what i'm hearing?

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, but just annoy someone slightly taller than you. Then they will annoy someone slightly taller than them.

Edit: I apologize, I didn't click to enlarge the graphic so I didnt see the words. All I saw was the picture of the bunny with the dominoes.

And I was reading down the comments and wondered why everyone's getting political about this bunny-dominoes picture 🤣

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is this not a victim-blaming meme telling me to shut up and stay at home? The last domino is going to hit the rabbit.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I think it's more something like if you don't confront bigotry it'll grow and eventually crush you.

[–] SirHaxalot@nord.red 10 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Yeah, my first thought was that it’s a reference to how facism has grown by allowing people to discuss it in anonymous echo chambers.

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[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The “safe space” sticker I have on my car has invited road rage more than once from big truck drivers. Back in GA a man just stood behind my car waiting for me to come out of a store. I have front and rear dash cams now. I don’t even think it’s that political, but I’m not taking it off.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Back in GA a man just stood behind my car

According to ICE, you're justified in using lethal force in this situation.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Only if it's a lesbian who dyes her hair.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

The biggest part I had to cry abt was the Fox News anchor (probably Jesse Walter) saying she had pronouns in her social media profile so she of course is Antifa and a domestic terrorist for informing the public she was she/her. She is a martyr and we will remember her and all those ICE has killed

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Yes! My FUCK ICE sticker has been inspiring conversations everywhere I go. Some folks on the highway tailgate me, shaking their heads, and drive by in a fit, staring at me. I smile warmly and give a thumbs up. My neighbors are all talking to me more openly. Little tiny things can definitely sow change. Do it. I don't give two shits if someone keys my car, America is boiling.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This makes fuck all sense.

[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (11 children)

If people don't speak about politics, nobody ever sees any criticism

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[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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