Maybe you should look at post-country, folk or folk punk.
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And then came AI generated music...
it was disney channel musicals here. and i actually didn't mind (too much). some of those are ok movies.
My parents routinely started listening to several of my favourite bands when I was a teen.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to be an angsty rebellious teenager when your parents are supportive of your tastes and phases?
It’s called Baby Shark.
My son was the prime age for Baby Shark when it blew up a few years ago.
I remember we were on a ride at a little local amusement park and some girls started singing Baby Shark.
I was the dad that stepped in right on the beat and bellowed out "DAAAAAADDY SHARK DOOT DOOT..." with as much bass in my voice as I could manage.
I grew up in a conservative household. Fuck that whole universe of attitudes.
I pretty much like good music from many generations and genres. But you know what I don't understand? About 85% of the Beatles songs.They had a few great songs, but so many of them do absolutely nothing for me.
This is, in a nutshell, why music was better back then. Only the gold has stood the test of time. Most of it, like today, was shit.
It's been a while for a new rebellious music genre to appear, though...
Kids, let's go, we are waiting!
Mumble rap is the rebellious version of old school rap.
Just look how angry it makes old school rap lovers.
I generally don't really like rap, but mumble rap just sounds lazy as shit. Like "I can't even be bothered to open my mouth". It's also so stupidly monotone. I may just be an old man yelling at kids, but that's music I will never understand.
I love the strange genre merges by bands like electric callboy or hanabie but i doubt you can call most their fans kids
You think you're immune.
You think you stand over the previous generations outrage over young peoples listening habits.
Let me tell you two words:
AI Music
I feel like there's a few. Like whatever you want to call artists like 100 gecs, or femtanyl.
Just looked them up.
Fentanyl I found classified as Hardcore Punk, which would already be around since the 80s.
But 100 gecs seems to be something called Hyperpop, which is a genuine new GenZ thing!
Sounds interesting, will have a look!
Hyperpop kinda feels like more of a vibe than a music style. The most defining trait being pitched up vocals but to me, is moreso about the energy (angst?) it brings
We have hyperpop that veers more towards rap https://youtu.be/BFF5pyVNd8w
And more standard hyperpop like ericdoa, glaive, and midwxst https://youtu.be/WCPJK9GCXHE https://youtu.be/LseJIsQ62WQ https://youtu.be/Jmz8CXm8JLY https://youtu.be/kCBKHdTwbXU
And derivatives from hyperpop like dariacore https://youtu.be/Lojx82Etjl0
And other artists that started in hyperpop but went on to do their own thing like my goat brakence https://youtu.be/cpGHMGOeg-o
Calling Femtanyl "hardcore punk" is certainly a choice. Hardcore punk has specific genre conventions (e.g. having drums and guitars) that Femtanyl doesn't follow at all.
I see Femtynal classified as "digital hardcore," which is a fusion of Hardcore Punk and the EDM subgenre Hardcore.
you just need to go deeper (more underground)!
Unless it's an AI song. If you link me an AI song I will bring back the beatings.
My kids told me about how they love something called phonk or something. I got excited, because I thought they said "funk". I was very upset when they put on their phonk "music". I was expecting something akin to Sam and Dave or earth wind and fire, but what I got was a cacophony of dying animals and a back beat so horribly off tempo that I couldn't be sure that it was actually part of a song
phonk is so 10 years ago
"Yarrr, add it to me playlist."
SpongeBob me boy, that sounds sick AF! What's the song so I can add it to me playlist? Arg arg arg arg arg!
Mark Fisher, the author of Capitalist Realism, in another book called "Exiting the Vampire Castle", argued that in the history of recorded music, every 20 - 30 years or so there were new genres of music that wouldn't be recognizable as music to the previous generation. But around the early 2000s this process stopped, and musical categories hardened due to capitalist logic. Record companies just wanted to churn out the same things that they already knew how to market, rather than invest in artists who were cutting edge. He called it "the slow cancellation of the future".
Granted I think Fisher is kind of overrated as a practical theorist, all those CCRU research people went crazy, and Fisher is a particularly sad example. His vampire castle book is okay, and that generation was like preoccupied with marketing manipulation (a perspective that arguably was being marketed to them/us).
But through that perspective this meme is interesting, because the reason younger generations can connect about musical tastes, is because popular music has stopped being subversive. Chances are the band the younger boy is listening to has a sound that was copped from an older group, which is why the young man recognizes it as good. But to the older generations, music was still subversive, the young rejected the older, already explored categories of music, which were themselves subversive in their own time.
To play the devil's advocate here: "music used to be subversive but now it's all the same, nothing original" sounds just like a grumpy old man yelling at a cloud. Old people will find reasons to hate new stuff.
This isn't to disagree. I read Capitalist Realism and think the argument works. And personally, I remember how shocked I was to find out that Behind Blue Eyes wasn't originally by Limp Bizkit but much older and that my mom listened to the punk rock band I liked as a teenager when she was young. My question might be if there ever was anything "new under the sun" but first and foremost, I like the idea as a devil's advocate.
I remember how shocked I was to find out that Behind Blue Eyes wasn’t originally by Limp Bizkit
Are you fucking kidding me
What is going on here
You listened to that and went "Yup, Fred Durst wrote this"?
In my defense, I was like 12 or something. I knew the song from my older brother and liked it. My English wasn't good enough to understand it completely but it spoke to me on an emotional level.
So the shock wasn't that I was a huge Limp Biskit fan. I can't name another song and had to look up the spelling writing the comment. The shock was how much older the song was than, well, than me. It spoke to how I felt towards my parent generation but it was basically written by my parent generation.
Sometimes its more traumatic to encourage their musical taste than to berate it.
Actual, classic country is really good. It’s the modern stuff that’s all about loving Bush’s wars, drinking shitting beer, and hating gay people that’s the problem.
Doc Watson, Johnny Cash, and Marty Robbins are all worth checking out, to name a few.
For me good country music is about growing up rural poor and making rebellious music with heart and soul. You can't authentically make that music while hating people (be they women, brown, queer, trans, foreign etc.). You can't make that music without being against cops and corporations like Nestle and United Health.
I had typed out an overly long rant about modern country losing its soul and just being pop music with a guitar twang veneer and classic country shit heels like David Allen Coe who still managed to make some memorable songs. Instead I'll just list some contemporary artists that I'd put on the same playlist and call it country.
In no particular order: Jesse Welles, Sturgill Simpson, Lil Nas X, Robert Ellis, Father John Misty, Old Crow Medicine Show, Courtney Barnett, Kurt Vile, The Texas Gentlemen, etc. I'm sure others can suggest more and some will dispute some of these. I make no claims that any of these people won't turn out to be bad guys later. After all, I do still kind of like that David Allen Coe song about being drunk the day his mom got out of prison and he went to pick her up in the rain, but before he could get to the station in his pickup truck she got run over by a damned old train.
Some modern country is also great! Tyler Childers has multiple songs about fucking around and being a cokehead in Kentucky (he's thankfully clean now). Then there's his Country Squire album that's very fun to watch videos from while stoned. It's like some southern Yellow Submarine.
Zach Bryan released an anti ICE song that I can't currently remember the title of for the life of me.
If you want more folk, Haunted Windchimes, The Ghost of Paul Revere, and Poor Man's Poison are all excellent, with Poor Man's Poison just straight up having multiple leftist as fuck songs. More mainstream you'd find Noah Kahan, who's done some excellent music. It's more pop folk than normal folk, but I'm still a fan personally.
Basically, just avoid artists like that whiny little bitch boy Morgan Wallen or basically any of the mainstream musicians from the 80s to the 2000s and you can find some actually good shit.
Also, both are mainstream, but Travis Tritt's Trouble and John Michael Montgomery's Sold are both absolute bangers.
I'd love to be that dad, but my daughter only listens to k-pop
Blackpink kinda slaps though.