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[–] vortexal@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

For both users and content creators to actually use alternative platforms. Platforms like Odysee and Rumble exist but, for the most part, only "certain types" of people actually use them at the moment, which currently turns off most of the people that would be otherwise interested in using them.

There are some good content creators who use them, like how both SomeOrdinaryGamers and Louis Rossmann have channels on Odysee, but having only a few content creators isn't going to be enough to make the platforms pop off over night.

[–] thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Billibilli will outside your region, but it's going to be like 20 years lol. Maybe a completely different platform. Google needs to make a series of inevitable dick moves such as forcing logins.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 7 points 9 hours ago

An infinite pool of money.

Video hosting is very costly, especially at scale

[–] INeedANewUserName@piefed.social 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Realistically with only current market forces... more creators uploading useful non pornographic content to porn sites after realizing they pay better than youtube and the sites going along with it as views are views. Which the rumors have been flying with varying levels of truth about that happening a bit.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/math-teacher-earns-250k-on-pornhub/

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago
  • My dad is famous on the internet
  • cool where can I find him?
  • pornhub... He's a math teacher...
  • what?
[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago

That people becomes willing to pay for the services they need - and that someone NOT greedy makes that service...

[–] GaumBeist@lemmy.ml 47 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

First and foremost: about 10-20 Exabytes worth of storage space, or roughly 4 Petabytes per day.

That's 4,000,000 Gigabytes of new video per day.

And of course you'd need an efficient way of loading all that video data and streaming it to the end users, so they don't experience major interruptions, even when hundreds of thousands of people are all watching the same video at the same time. Youtube does this with caching servers/proxies, and highly optimized data delivery algorithms.

Once you have all that infrastructure, just make sure it's free and ad-free for all the watchers and uploaders. It's not like you need to pay for all those servers and storage... right?

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Best I can do is three over worked tech drones in a trenchcoat who'll work on this project in their spare time.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What about 2 Raspberry Pi 3s?

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago

It'll have to do.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago

Engaging algorithm, no paywall, funding or monetization strategy, viewpoint diversity, and a large amount of people already using it

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 33 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Honestly? Hundreds of billions (maybe trillions) of dollars to invest in engineering, infrastructure, staffing, creator incentives, marketing, etc.

You’re talking about taking on a household name that has 2.75 billion monthly active users. That’s more than a quarter of the humans on this planet, and probably some in space too. They make over $50 billion dollars a year to make sure their competition is absolutely crushed.

Realistically though? Enforcing antitrust laws.

[–] BigBolillo@mgtowlemmy.org 8 points 19 hours ago

A big bunch of money(trillions)

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Coordinated attack on multiple data centers.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

By whom? Even the largest botnet in existence wouldn’t be a blip on their radar. I used to work as an SRE at Facebook. The egress graph didn’t even show ddos attacks. That’s how insignificant they are at that scale of infrastructure. There were things that affected the egress graph, like the superbowl.

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

By whom?

There are only five countries that have enough nukes to take out all YouTube data centers at once: USA, Russia, UK, France and China.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 6 points 21 hours ago

Ok, fair enough. I don’t know exactly what effect nuclear weapons would have on the egress graph, but I’d imagine it wouldn’t be good.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 14 points 23 hours ago

YouTube is popular because it gives creators a way to get paid. So a new service would need to offer some of that.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)
[–] Fierro@piefed.social 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I believe the biggest hurdle (even bigger than the mountain of tech and capital needed) is people having the will to try to migrate to something else.

Everyone talks big about stuff beong crap but almost nobody puts an ounce of effort into trying, even when there are viable alternatives, the slight amount of discomfort of actually making the switch is enough of a deterrent to actually do it.

Think of when everyone were doing that reddit blackout where they would solemnly swear they would come back after pretending they would abandon it, lemmy existed, forums existed, nothing was one-to-one with reddit so barely anyone actually did leave or even tried replacing it with something else.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Engaging algorithms is the reason people stay on proprietary services. Fediverse users love to shoot themselves in the foot talking about how algorithms and AI sucks then wonder why people don't want to switch

[–] trilobite@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think human lazyness as you say is the biggest obsticle. My kids school sent out a Google form the other day to collect family stats. A google form requires a google email and i had degooglised the family 5-6 years ago. My wife was concerned that not providing the info would singke out my son but i was determined to not fill that form, thus passing my data to Google. So i called up the school and sought a second method. The school secretary eventually agreed to record the info over the phone. I lost 30 mins of my day. Basically, if we don't have the will to mske change, change will never come. But then we have no right to complain, do we?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 1 day ago

Ease of use, content creator tools, wide reach, free, less ads, more reasonably placed, no tracking, donation buttons, I'm sure there's more.

[–] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

52% of the current Youtube viewers to choose another service

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh, so just 1.4 billion people.

That's how monopolies work yeah.