Good, just don't demand ID. Let parents parent their kids and limit companies abusing biological weaknesses.
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Smart move, this is great to see! I think it's pragrmatic on the EU's part. I think we all know from browsing other platforms with infinite scroll that having to click 'next' at the end of the page for the 20th time is enough of a jolt to conclude, "that's enough of this for now," and to move on with your day
I mean…. What are they gonna kill next, buttons?
The scroll isn’t the problem, it’s the content.
You're comparing a dark pattern to a basic interface element. It's not like they're talking about scrolling itself,
And infinite scrolling absolutely is a problem on its own, regardless of content.
The ability to scroll down forever is not something a government should control.
We need accountability not bullshit laws.
By blaming a user interface, the rich have tricked you into allowing them to keep doing what they are doing. If this passes, you’ll be placated. Something is “being done” but that’s just a lie they told you to believe.
The CONTENT is the problem.
I can see where you're coming from, in light of EU policy proposals like Chat Control. But that doesn't mean everything that comes out of them is problematic.
We need accountability not bullshit laws.
Well this is accountability. By making this a law, companies can actually be fined about it.
Infinite scrolling is a dark pattern. It's not used to help you, it's used to get you addicted.
The CONTENT is the problem.
Both are. The content and the manipulative addictive design decisions.
Ok well let’s ban all scrolling. Scrollbars too. Everything has to be pages with buttons. Including file browsers. Can’t have those getting out of hand. Don’t even get me started on file previews
I also get what you mean. Petty laws are just the system's way of more make-belief instead of fundamental true change. Also, infinite scroll is a horrible addiction pattern and it's still a separate thing than regular scrolling of a finite amount of data.
So should stock photography websites also be banned from allowing a scroll that is technically finite at 10 billion images or… are we offering exclusions that can be easily abused? Technically, there is a finite number of twitter and Snapchat posts if they never repeat previously viewed items.
Good luck making that an enforceable law!! And, enjoy the false hope.
Oh I'm not enforcing it. I just get that it's one of those poison things in social media
If they really want to stop the doom scrolling, they need to make let's dance against Algorithms. The algorithms are the addictive part. It's not the scrolling that's hurting anyone.
What if I said you're addicted to the scroll. Your next hit is just one scroll away. Go on, scroll once more!
But Oracle, I'm on Lemmy, If I scroll for more than 45 minutes, I run out of content.
I'm on Voyager

It’s a good feature, Apollo had it too!
Or make the world have no doom.
Dude, if they could pull that off...
Haha right? No profit in utopia.
I would prefer them to go after mechanisms like this over tying all web activity to IDs I guess, but punishing and penalizing companies that have clear ill intent and demonstrate a lack of moral scruples seems the most efficient way to address the issues we’re seeing with social media design.
It’s all bureaucratic nonsense that will get nothing done, and just placates people while the companies continue to do the same thing they always have with a different mechanism.
This is more pathetic than a US democrat offering cheaper health insurance instead of socialized healthcare.
This is the “we need people to drive less to save the environment so let’s block all those new electric cars everyone wants that’ll slow em down” equivalent
The longer your think about it, the worse this idea seems.
Why's that? I'm curious to hear the counter-arguments
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Nobody gives a shit about kids, this has nothing to do with kids.
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It is a distraction to point to infinite scrolling, and it makes people dumber when they nod their heads and say "yeah that is the problem!" because the oxygen goes out of the room to have a serious conversation about collective ownership of digital platforms, the violence inherent to rightwing ideology and the extreme damage wealth inequality and the globally collapsing social safety net does to us all.
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These laws WILL be used by wealthy corporations to shut out smaller competition/social networks.
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Infinite scroll? Really? We are gonna compare swiping over and over again to physically giving someone drugs? I am not debating the reality of addiction, I am saying that there really isn't any actually solid evidence we are making rational scientific decisions here. Whenever we talk about addiction people turn their brain off and everything becomes a slippery slope, it is a logic that only ever works when applied in a monomanical way that excludes the obvious fallacies that comes from expanding the logic outside of the moral panic zone... but a moral panic demands you be shamed if you aren't hyperfocusing on it and thus it can propagate even though the broader implications of its logic are destructive and regressive.
https://www.platformer.news/social-media-screen-time-manchester-study-haidt/
https://news.ucsb.edu/2025/022293/brain-science-social-media-and-modern-moral-panic
https://www.usermag.co/p/can-you-sue-for-social-media-addiction
https://petergray.substack.com/p/63-more-on-moral-panics-and-thoughts
Will restricting social media or other uses of technology reverse the current mental health crisis among kids?
I am convinced that the answer is no. I have written about this before. The mental health crisis preceded smartphones and social media. It even preceded public access to the Internet. Rates of anxiety, depression, and suicide among teens increased continuously and dramatically between 1950 and 1990. In previous writings (e.g. here and here) I have described some of the societal changes that gradually restricted children’s freedom to play and explore independently and thereby deprived them of their greatest sources of joy and the kinds of activities that provide the opportunity to acquire a sense of agency and build the skills that underlie emotional resilience (see here).
Then, from 1990 to about 2010, the mental health of kids in the US improved. Rates of anxiety, depression and suicide declined about a third of the way back toward 1950s levels. Why? We don’t know for sure, but I have presented—with evidence (e.g. here)—the hypothesis that computers, computer games, and the Internet itself became a saving grace. Already by 1990 we had taken away most of kids’ opportunities to play, explore, and communicate with one another independently of adult control in the real world, but now they could do those things in the virtual world. They regained some of the sense of autonomy, competence, and relatedness to peers that psychologists have long known are essential for mental wellbeing.
Beginning around 2011 rates of anxiety, depression and suicide among teens began to increase again, reaching by 2019 a peak about the same as that in 1990 before leveling off again after 2019. What happened? Jonathan Haidt, in The Anxious Generation, wants us to believe that the crucial social change was availability of smartphones and social media platforms, but most social scientists who have long been immersed in testing that theory disagree. Again, see my critique of Haidt’s book here and the previous posts I link to in that critique. I elaborated (here) on another theory about what changed around 2011 to increase kids’ anxiety, depression, and suicide, which is far better supported by evidence than the smartphone/social media theory, but relatively few people are willing to consider it. It’s easier to blame media companies than to blame what was viewed as “reform” of our public school system.
kek. What will threadiverse, Fediverse, and NaziSky do then?
threadiverse
- Piefed already uses paging
- Lemmy already uses paging
- Mbin already uses paging
- NodeBB already has opt-in paging
The only threadiverse software that does not support paging is Discourse. Considering most people aren't even aware that one is federated to begin with, I doubt the threadiverse in particular is going to have any problem at all.
for posts, you're correct. for loading comments in a post, all these paginate?
You're right, I didn't think of that. Lemmy does seem to use infinite scrolling for comments, though I don't have an account, so I can't check if there's a setting to change that.
Mbin and NodeBB are the same as for posts though, Mbin uses paging by default, NodeBB has it opt-in. And Piefed doesn't let me sort by amount of comments, so can't check there.
why would it? There are limited replies to a single post, but there are potentially unlimited posts to doomscroll
infinite scrolling