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[–] Ardyssian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Kreia: Apathy is death.

But at the same time it is really mentally exhausting just to keep up with the firehose of bullshit.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

You actually inspired me to write a long and rambling screed

It's important to find a balance between activism and having realistic expectations.

Even if we threw ourselves into The Cause(tm) 100%, there's no guarantee of change. For many people, that's disheartening. If they sold all their worldly possessions, worked 16 hours a day 7 days a week in the most radical ways they could imagine, the world still might not change because of them. But I prefer the mirror view - you don't have to be a martyr and an ascetic to support revolution. Every revolution in history was made possible by a much larger cadre than just the key figures and (now nameless) instigators.

Don't ever give up an opportunity for low-risk high-reward activism, nor for activity which can make a large difference but consumes very little of your limited resources. Yet also understand that the world isn't your's to fix. Focus on playing your part.

Vote, especially if you have mail-in voting. That's dirt-cheap cost in time and energy. Harm reduction is... as we're seeing today, worth literal millions of lives. Protest? Certainly, whenever the opportunity arises. One more voice in the crowd is one more voice it's harder to drown out. Activism? Absolutely. Donating your time multiplies the efforts of everyone else. Throw a brick in your local riot? Fuck yeah. A riot is the language of the unheard, and if the powers that be won't listen, a few bricks can make them nervous and wake them up for 'negotiations'. Talk about a strike with your union? Golden fuckin' language. Few things are as strong as workers' solidarity.

... but at the same time, understand that the burden is not wholly on you. If you missed a midterm election or made a bad choice in a presidential election, you don't have to crucify yourself forever for it. If you know that voter suppression is going to be fucking gruesome at your polling place and you have a family to take care of, make the risk calculation for the specific election you're in, and act according to your best judgement.

If you're two payments late on rent and your boss has threatened you with dismissal if you miss another day, one more voice in the protest is generally not going to be the difference between life and death for The Revolution(tm). If you're juggling multiple jobs or just barely staying away from putting a gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger as-is, the nice local party organizer who says you'd make a great part-time member of the team will understand if you can't help at this juncture of your life.

If you're out of jail on parole and know that getting caught means you'll be behind bars for a disproportionately long time compared to your contribution, you don't have to be one of the rioters. If the worst should come to pass and literal Pinkertons start fucking knocking on your door and plausibly threatening your spouse and kids for your strike, picking the lives of your loved ones over ideology is not something that reasonable people will condemn you, personally, for.

(Conversely, if you skip a vote because you really wanted ice cream; or a protest because a new game came out that day; or refuse an activist role you're suited for because it might cut into your masturbation time; or condemn a riot because 'violence bad 🥺'; or refuse a strike because it might interfere with your yearly productivity bonus... fucking take a step back and consider what a small cost it is to be a tolerably moral human fucking being)

Above all, it is not your burden on a personal, private level. You have a moral duty to do what you reasonably can, but it is not morally necessary for everyone to demand demand miracles or martyrdom of themselves. We are not fascists; everyone is not educated to be a hero. Miracleworkers and martyrs are needed, make no mistake. But to pursue that specific path is something one must decide for themselves. And often neither are actually given the choice - it just happens.

You don't have to even be the first brick thrown or the name on the plaque when they put up a statue to the original strike's proposers, though if you see the opportunity, it would be really swell. But be ready and proactive in doing your part.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Also still many believe, that fascism starts with a literal cartoon villain proclaiming he's "literally Hitler 2.0", and that fascists don't try to sway the public opinion through "concerns" because many of those concers will ultimately be found to be fake.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Also still many believe, that fascism starts with a literal cartoon villain proclaiming he’s “literally Hitler 2.0”

tbf, we basically have that happening and many still don't believe it.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Now yes, but on the way there, they often claimed they were different.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the apathy of the populace is manufactured by long working hours, little pay and constant propaganda.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't be woke if you are dead tired from trying to make ends meet and survive

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

aka the sole reason why we can learn that our leaders are baby fucking/eating/killing monsters and every just collectively shrugs and pretends that they don't see it like it's a homeless person asking for money.

also: the propaganda does more heavy lifting. we're at a stage now that we help spread this propaganda to each other instead of the gov't doing it themselves; we're doing that work for free and that's funny considering how many are struggling to make ends meet. lol

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Which is happening in the world today

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Long description of my POV of apathy below. Please skip if it's a bother.

I'm open to differing views and to being convinced otherwise.

It's difficult to not be apathetic when you don't see any real changes. Whenever I comment something like this, I'd be hit by someone saying something like, "I'm distancing myself from people like that". And that's their decision, it's fine, but like, really, there's no good answer to that, innit?

There's little evidence pushing back is doing much. I don't believe in things without evidence. If you push people to "just believe" without evidence, aren't you the same as MAGAts?

At least, for the US, it seems useless. Nothing has happened to Trump or his Epstein accomplices despite the overwhelming evidence. Sure approval rates have gone below 30%, but what changed?

I may feel like there's (relatively) more hope in Europe. UK protests pushed back the digital ID system and now it's delayed for a few years at least.

I'm not sure we're winning against fascism, though. If there's good evidence for the positive impact of protests etc that have actually already happened under Trump era in destroying fascism, I'd like to know.

I think it's at least beneficial for community protection and surviving (ex: against ICE) but can you topple Trump and the Epstein class? Because I think that's what needs to be done for real lasting change. Alongside corporate hell.

I've personally mostly just shifted off terrible platforms like Reddit and Discord etc for selling people out to ICE, tracking, etc, because I'm afraid of Palantir leading to a thought-crime neo-nazi state. I don't believe my decision will bring or lead to systemic change, but it will help protect me to some extent at least.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

First they came for the immigrants

But I did not speak up, because I was not an immigrant...

May martyrs like Alex Pretti decide our future more than the gestapo thugs who killed him.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago

Not just apathetic people but extreme right wingers. The people who think something must be done about immigrants but would not ask for children in cages. They are not going to do anything to stop it and they are going to respond unfavorably to anybody trying via not proper (ineffective) means.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Which side are the people who don't like what the regime is doing but are too cowardly to actively oppose it on?

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Hah, the apathetic then the pathetic.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 23 hours ago
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the protest-non-voters!

The road to fascism is lined with the lesser evil and compromise