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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml to c/menslib@lemmygrad.ml

Hello, comrades!

I have created this community in no small part because I have been focusing hard on deconstructing negative behaviors and habits socialized into me from birth. I have been focusing on personal, professional and revolutionary growth.

Importantly, I've been reading bell hooks' The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity and Love. It's honestly brought me to tears more than a few times, and I'm only as of writing 60% of the way through it. I have not felt seen like this in what feels like a long time. Socialized and internalized patriarchal standards of living are actively destroying our potential as men to live, love, and achieve true self-actualization.

I highly recommend it to any man seeking to dismantle their internalized patriarchy. I also highly recommend it to feminist women and other non-men who innately fear us (rightly, much of the time), as hooks is intimately familiar with both the fear of males and male fear.

It is obvious that this manufactured fear cannot sustain life and love and it is up to all of us, regardless of gender or sex, to destroy the locus of this fear - as prof. hooks not-so-succinctly, yet aptly, puts it, imperialist white supremacist capitalist patriarchy.

I desired to create a space where I, other men, and all others interested can discuss our issues regarding patriarchal conditioning and potentially how we are working to overcome them. It can also serve as a space for women and those who do not identify with manhood to ask questions of men, and hopefully gain some insight, if they are so inclined.

What do you think?

I also ask graciously of you, comrades, that if, in my language revolving around gendered oppression, I fail to achieve a proper standard of trans and gender non-conforming inclusivity, you correct me. No offense will be taken, thank you.

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[-] Prologue7642@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a great idea. My only issue is the name as it sounds like this is lib community, but that is just my gut reaction, I guess you ran out of characters.

Overall I would like to engage in such community, I try to overcome these harmful habit and study about patriarchy, but it is difficult as I live in pretty non-progressive place. Having a place like this might help.

[-] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought about that! If I recall correctly, the reddit community was r/menslib, short for men's liberation ofc, but "lib" very much is associated with liberalism especially in our communist space lol. Changed to "Men's Liberation" 🫡

[-] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Men's catgirlization

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Political education about all tendencies of feminism helps a lot. I listened to a pretty liberal but yet informative podcast on feminism (it’s in french so it’s hard to start a conversation about it right here), and despite having criticism I kept learning about this tendency and it made me think differently about a lot of things, and gave me a new angle of constructive criticism.

And overall the best exercise when you organise a bit is shutting up and listening to women even if you disagree. Card carrying TERFS being the exception for obvious reasons of defending trans people. But overall if a woman talks about her experiences and ideas even in a liberal or ultra leftist way we should just listen and be very careful in our criticism, think about it and not react instantly, not debating her or anything. It’s a practice that both empowers women in organisations and help you managing your biaises and urges to overpower women in discussion that patriarchy engrained in us

Ah and last thing, not being ultra horny and constantly seductive is very good

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read the title and my balls shriveled up thinking that some MGTOW redditor incel finally broke through the admin wall. But seeing it was you and then reading what you are trying to accomplish I can say that I wholeheartedly support this community and can’t wait to participate!

Do you think this will be a more grounded, serious, and theoretical space; or do you think it will be more about letting people talk through their experiences together and how they can change their thought/feelings/behaviors along with any questions they may have?

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