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[–] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (9 children)

It’s ok not going to the USA, it is more of a problem when they rock up in your country and use a tomahawk on your kids school.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 days ago

It isn't safe.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

World cup teams should also skip the usa

[–] _Nico198X_@piefed.europe.pub 125 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No one should be visiting the US for the foreseeable future.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 22 points 3 days ago
[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 82 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Given how big the LGBTQ+ community is in the games industry, they really need to host this in Vancouver or Toronto until things settle down in the USA.

[–] example@reddthat.com 53 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Exactly. USA can GTFO

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[–] greyscale 141 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Maybe they should move GDC somewhere less terrible for a couple years. Let Japan have it or something.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 41 points 3 days ago

Brilliant Idea!

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

There is a gamedev conference that accompanies Gamescom in Germany every year.

https://dev.gamescom.global/

It has lived in the GDCs shadow up until know, but game (the organisation that organises the whole thing) should understand this as a chance

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Strong 1930s Germany vibes

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I already wouldn't have gone to that country if you paid me. They let any idiot carry a fucking gun.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 days ago

Oddly that scares me less than the ones under payroll.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm not gonna say gun violence isn't a problem here but...this reminds me of rightwingers going on about violence in Chicago. The reality is that most of the gun violence is isolated to certain areas and Chicago is a big place....the US is even bigger.

And it's not like you're being invited to visit a high school

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (9 children)

We have lost 1.5 million people to gun violence the last three decades. More than every US soldier in every war combined. To pussy foot around with this is pretty ridiculous.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What proportion of those are people visiting for work or tourism?

It's ridiculous to downplay in the sense of the domestic response. But in terms of risk in this context, it's not a factor.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Perception is more important than actual risk to most people. This is especially poignant considering you don't have to visit the US on vacation and can just go somewhere else.

Let me ask you this, if you knew a nation was at war and losing about 50k citizens every year to said war would you want to visit? I think most sane people would say no.

I am reminded of the UK citizen who just went to visit her father in Texas who shot her after explaining it would be okay for Trump to rape her because he has other daughters.

I mean I am sorry, but the US is now worse than backwards Middle Eastern countries that are also statistically pretty damned safe. Doesn't mean people want to visit either though.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The mind boggles that you understand this but want to encourage people to do the irrational thing instead of put the statistics in context. I get not trying to persuade people the US is safe to travel to (from the pov of gun violence) but why would you try to persuade them that it isn't???

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[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Still, even the safest US states would rank among the most dangerous EU countries in terms of gun violence and gun related homicides.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't dispute that (I'd even wager that the safer state is worse than the most dangerous eu country) but it's not like it's commonplace to get killed by a stranger. You're more likely to die during travel unless you're specifically traveling to dangerous neighborhoods

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's true. I used to travel to Saint Louis quite regularly for work about ten years ago. It always seemed fine, at least on the surface.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hilariously one of the more statistically dangerous cities in the country lol

I lived in Chicago for over 20 years and while I did see someone ditch a stolen car and escape the stereotypically-fat cops by jumping on a train, I never even heard gunfire.

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I know. It still feels odd to me as a Dutchman though to know that there's dozens of gun related crimes going on all the time.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago

A big portion of them are gang violence, meaning it's targeted and not something you'd ever see. Like Mexico has an even bigger gang violence problem, but plenty of people travel there all the time.

Also, some of those gun crime numbers are "guy got arrested for drugs and had a gun on him", not necessarily gun violence.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I don't love it either but you and I are probably have a similar chance of dying to gun violence even if the statistics say I'm 200% more likely to

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

When I wanted to visit the uNazied States of america the guns being prevalent wasn't an issue. I'd have to be very unlucky to get shot whilst visiting the attractions I wanted to see.

Now, admittedly, it was a long time ago when I thought about visiting, and it was more like a "if I ever win the lottery then I'll visit xxxx place" type thing.
Then their 2016 elections came along and ever since then there's no fucking chance I'd ever go. You couldn't pay me to visit.
What's the point in having loads of cash if I'm being detained and locked up for who knows how long, and then being deported to an El Salvadorian death camp!!

[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 68 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Which company or indie dev would want to pay through the ass for the very real risk of having their people kidnapped by ICE and shoved in a concentration camp for weeks or even months, without any kind of (functional) appeal process?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

"I make video games for a living and have absolutely never said anything problematic or polarizing on social media. Can't wait to cruise through airport security and immigration without a care in the world."

~ Nobody, Ever

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

I feel personally attacked

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[–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 3 days ago

the ticket is 500-1000 usd anyway. like wtf lol.

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