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Manjaro Linux looks like it's in trouble with the release of the "Manjaro 2.0 Manifesto" (www.gamingonlinux.com)

submitted 18 hours ago by cm0002@no.lastname.nz to c/linux@programming.dev

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At one point it seemed like Manjaro Linux would be the most popular Arch-based distribution, but after many missteps it appears to be at breaking point.

By now most people in the Linux sphere will have seen the issues - like how they have repeatedly let their SSL certificate expire bringing their entire website down. Something that is easily solved, but shows how the structure behind Manjaro is not particularly stable.

On the Manjaro Linux official forum, their team have put up a "Manjaro 2.0 Manifesto" with backing from multiple developers and people on their community team. They say that the leadership behind Manjaro does not line up with the actual developers and community involved in it, noting that Manjaro has become "one individual's personal project, and everything is centralized around this single individual" (the founder, Philip Müller) and how the attempts to turn it into a business have mostly failed and so they want to see big changes.

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[–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 points 3 hours ago

Philip is an idiot don't use his stuff.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

So close.

[–] devtoolkit_api@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 7 hours ago

The SSL certificate expiration thing was the canary in the coal mine. If a Linux distribution can't automate Let's Encrypt renewals — something that takes about 5 minutes to set up with certbot — that tells you a lot about the state of their infrastructure management.

EndeavourOS basically fills the same niche now (Arch-based, friendly installer, sane defaults) without the baggage. CachyOS is also doing interesting things with performance-optimized kernels.

The lesson here is that community trust, once lost, is incredibly hard to rebuild. Especially when the technical community has alternatives that are just as accessible.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Manjaro is such an antipattern of a distro.

Arch Linux has a good installer now.

If you need good installer and sane defaults, EndeavorOs exists.

And the biggest advantages of arch Linux- the configurability, rolling updates, and AUR, all effectively get broken by Manjaro.

Honestly why is anyone using it or taking it seriously anymore?

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 5 points 11 hours ago

Honestly the state of Manjaro saddens me. Years ago it was the on-ramp for (Arch) Linux for me. It was seen back then as what CachyOS is now. But it had issues back then which only got more frequent. I moved to Arch on all my new installs after that. I do hope that they can reform themselves and improve as seeing such a project stagnate is always sad. But centralization is just not what should be the case in such community projects.

[–] bobby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They say that the leadership behind Manjaro does not line up with the actual developers and community involved in it, noting that Manjaro has become “one individual’s personal project, and everything is centralized around this single individual”

So just leave to one of the other existing Arch spin offs?

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

The community does care about Manjaro tho. They said last resort is forking it but hopefully they'll find a way to resolve this without it