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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/44781501

GrapheneOS will remain usable by anyone around the world without requiring personal information, identification or an account. GrapheneOS and our services will remain available internationally. If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.

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[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 72 points 5 days ago

Fuck yeah Graphene.

[–] RiQuY@lemmy.zip 48 points 5 days ago

That's the bare minimum I expect from them.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Now we just need to see how different distros handle it

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Just saw a report yesterday that systemd will implement age verification, meaning it might not be up to the distros.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 days ago

Its just storing a date you tell it is your birthday. Nothing more than an age gate that can easily be lied to.

Honestly just have your distro zero accounts out to 00:00:00-1970-01-01 by default.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Might not be up to the distros?

Most distros already have a non-systemd variant out there.

And systemd is also open source; if age verification is baked in, people can just modify it to always return a positive result.

[–] xvertigox@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Time to replace systemd, I guess.

[–] ramenu@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Easiest solution is to just fork it rather than replacing it entirely

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago

nah, patch it out if it becomes an issue (x doubt)

[–] TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

May go the Gentoo route. majority of my friends use that as their primary os. peer pressure + compiling your OS is fun

I just did that yesterday, definitely a more involved setup but I really like it so far. I wanted to ditch systemd for a few reasons but this recent news finally gave me the motivation.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Time to go back to init.d

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

No, they won't. They added an age field to the user profile, right next to name, etc. It's there in case systems want to use it.

[–] DannyMac@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What are they going to do when these states hand over a list of violations at $7,500 per violation?

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are the devs even in a jurisdiction where that matters? Given they're working on a project specifically focused on privacy and security, even if they are in such a jurisdiction, are they actually traceable, or have they been obfuscating their identity with tools like Tor? It might not be enforceable.

[–] ijhoo@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

there is a company behind, so they can be identified... but, the foundation is in Canada, so probably California law doesn't apply to them. unless they start to sell their products in California. not a lawyer so I don't know for sure how those things work...

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

Ah, yeah, then they can't be touched unless Canada passes something stupid, too. Which in the general global political climate... Isn't impossible. But they may just geoblock California and other jurisdictions with similar laws so they can have plausible deniability. Of course, users could circumvent that entirely a dozen different ways, especially those technically inclined enough to install GrapheneOS, so I'm not sure how much it would really hurt them.

unless they start to sell their products in California

Good thing it's free software

[–] kamayatu24@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Everyone says so. And then I change the rules

[–] root@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago
[–] Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Dont forget to donate your open source…