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Has good points... decides the best way to bring those points to the world is planting bombs.
Adam Lanza had some good points about autism (remember when he called into that radio show?). His subsequent expression of his feelings about the world was less than optimal. There's no need to give the cunt kudos for his insights.
This is some "say what you like about Hitler, but at least he made the trains run on time!" level of vacuous.
To all the people in the comments being like "Ted had some good points." Judi Bari, Peter Kropotkin, and Murray Bookchin are all people who have written about environmentalism and the problems of technology, industrialization, and such and better than the reactionary psychopath did. Fascists love the unabomber and use him to normalize eco-fascism. Stop fucking saying he had good points cause there are better authors who have made those same points without all the fucking reactionary and eco-fascism tied to it.
Uhhhhh
Stop fucking saying he had good points cause there are better authors who have made those same points
Doesn’t this inherently imply he does in fact have good points if they’re making the same points… you also make a good point that there’s better sources that don’t come with a ton of ideology baggage but what your saying here is yes he does have good points but read someone else saying his points instead
Yes that is what I am saying. But just because someone made some good points doesn't mean we should keep using them as the defacto idealogue. Imagine if we kept saying "Hitler had some good points" when talking about animal rights or Osama Bin Laden for anti-imperialism. If you want an edgy thing to make a meme like this out of, use the ELF or ALF. Two groups that are controversial but lack the eco-fascism narrative of the unabomber.
there are better authors who have made those same points without all the fucking reactionary and eco-fascism tied to it.
Seems like a great reason to discuss Ted's viewpoints. We should definitely discuss the ineffectual extremists. Compare and contrast. Weigh and measure. That's what truth-seekers do. Telling people not to read a particular author borders on censorship.
But asking people to expand their reading list and providing actual recommendations - that is wonderful and commendable. Thank you for that!
I never said don't read it, but comparing and contrasting is not what is happening. Its like when Osama Bin Laden's manifesto or whatever was making the rounds and everyone was like "ya know he makes some good points." Everyone just keeps parroting the points of far-right extremists cause they pointed out a pretty universal issue like imperialism, consumerism, environmental destruction, etc. If the only perspective that gets spread is that of a far-right nutjob, then it normalizes the problematic parts of their perspective. Its always just begins and ends with "the unabomber made some good points." Not "the unabomber made some good points, but Bookchin is more practical and not a eco-fascist."
Did you know that Northrup Grumman developed the standard USPS mail truck? They also developed the B2 stealth bomber. Northrup never intended for their truck to also be a stealth bomber, but Ted said "I'm about to do what's called a 'pro gamer' move."
It’s probably better to read the philosophers Uncle Ted was pulling from (and ultimately failed to understand).
Ellul especially.
I follow the philosophy of Father Ted.
Which philosophers?
Might be a matter of taste, but ISAIF is worth a read on the basis of its wild mix of sociological brilliance and unhingedness IMO. That’s not to say I endorse blowing people up in the slightest, but the work stands taller than the sum of its influences.
E.g. I think he synthesized and added to quite a few different authors in presenting his concept of oversocialization. (Please do correct me if I’m off-base — I love philosophy but it’s not my main wheelhouse).
The longer I work in tech, the more I want to move to a farm 50km from neighbours with just me, my partner, a couple dogs, chickens, and cows.
I’m in tech and live off grid, best of both worlds
Goals.
"The more I work in tech, the more I wish I was independently wealthy."
I love how people use the word "just" when making statements about the simple life.
Simple ain't always cheap....
Depends how you live, but yeah. It can be expensive.
Around COVID times, I had a coworker who bought a 100+ year old farmhouse out in Minnesota and we could see over time how he was fixing it up. Then he quit and started his homestead. Enviable man.
but yeah, I've heard of a lot of people in tech quitting at 20 years, which seems high? but at around 13+ years, I get it. I just don't really know what I'd go to
I work in tech, but not “retire at 45” tech. I’ll be working till I’m 70.
The longer I ~~work in tech~~ exist, the more I want to move to a farm 50km from neighbours with just me, my partner, a couple dogs, chickens, and cows.
you should look at open land out in deep rural areas.
you're more likely to kill yourself than get a farm these days.
not since the corporations bought up all the farm land.
Technology is cool
Ted died in 2023 after spending 27 years in isolation in ADX Florence. Not sure if he considered that a win or not.
I was more into his thoughts on women
Ted had some good ideas, it's just how we went about doing what he did I take issue with.
Great taste but awful execution.
but if he was just a peaceful crank on the street corner holding a sign people would have ignored him. Nobody listened till the bombs went off. And when he was caught all they did was make fun of his cabin. Personally I thought it was a nice cabin in a nice location.
Haven't read unobomber's manifesto and probably never will because fuck anyone who seeks attention this way.
Damn you're so brave for condemning the unybomber.
i will use that term whenever someone hits me with a few +4 in a game
Unebomber had some valid complaints
There have been made by much better people who weren't also eco-fascists.
Yes, but few people talk about them.
Thats the problem. So maybe rather than giving the eco-fascist more coverage, we should highlight people who deserve it
I don't approve of his methods, either.
Then again, I don't approve of the Church's methods, but there's some pretty good stuff buried in the Christian bible, too.
Reading something doesn't mean you need to agree with the author. It's not like people are financially supporting the Unibomber, or excusing his actions, when they read his manifesto. They're just studying history.
Dead people can't do much with attention
Unabomer is how the news wrote it.
