Technology

One thing the FOSS world really needs to get on right now is some form of search engine accessible distributed content archival. We need a way to store useful content from the past in a way that no one individual or group of individuals is capable of deleting it.

Yes. When everyone enters info on corporate sites, sooner or later they'll decide to monetize it.

Reddit going evil on charges and showing their colours in the AMA has been a wake up.

I just can't agree more with you. Like wow this reddit blackout has truthfully opened my eyes to the massive, giant and incredibly amount of useful information that is currently resting on reddit servers.

I agree, but I also have serious concerns about this being the replacement strategy. It could be because of my ignorance of how this all works though. Like many of you, I am new and here because of the reddexodus.

These servers are going to cost money, and for many of them the money will run out. Is there a function to preserve the collective content of an entire server once it goes dark? I know that you can migrate your own account to another server, but what happens to everything Google has indexed at Lemmy.world if the worst happens? Is it all just dead links? What if many of the users do not migrate? Is it just gone?

I am concerned that in the current state we are setting up to burn everything that loses a couple admins or becomes too old to economically host.

That is the main reason why I've been blogging on my own website since 2004 https://paradies.jeena.net/weblog/2004/apr/ersteintrag (and switched to English in 2010 https://jeena.net/posts )

we should have collectively realized way earlier

some people have, but whenever you'd mention it, you'd be met with "lol take the tinfoil hat off", "but we're already using [for-profit platform] why would we move when everyone's here" and "but it's haaaaaaard".

I've said it numerous times over the years, the Internet has been centralizing rapidly and it benefits none of us.

In 2005 you'd wander around, going from peoples' personal pages to forums to whatever else people linked. In 2015 half of those websites were dead because everyone got their content on reddit anyway.

we can still easily fall into this trap if there isn't a good way to migrate communities between instances. And even if we could just take /c/technology@beehaw.org and move the whole thing to /c/technology@feddit.de or something, that would still break all the indexers' links

I think IPFS often unfairly gets lumped in with crypto bro shite but it seems to me like a pretty useful technology in many other contexts too.

Same. Had some things I needed to look up for my 3D printer and much of the results were inaccessible.

Was a pain.

Hopefully it will help people realise that a profit motive being attached to everything is actually counterproductive societally.

Same. I found it funny though. Showed that if we tried we can cause some chaos

Same, but it’s just growing pains.

We should start rewriting posts in lemmy with the correct information.

Same with Pathfinder 2 questions.

Maybe it really is time to get open sourced AI and bots to archive useful information so they don't get monopolized.

We're going to have to actually read official documentation instead of relying on some greybeard's wisdom on SO 🥲

If you've ever owned an older car, you know that this is the absolute best approach.

Good luck getting exceptionally niche advice for things like that on reddit. Forums get so much more specific, you get an entire forum dedicated to one car model that was only built for 5 years and a bunch of people there know literally everything about it, like the fact that you're better off getting an aftermarket PCV valve because those are built a bit better and don't fail early, or the fact that the shifter cable has the tendency to get water in it so you better be careful shifting out of park on a really cold morning, you might just snap the cable if it's old.

I'm willing to bet the lack of api access going forward will make all reddit posts disappear from crawler results anyways. I'm no expert, but I imagine the crawler is picking up on all of the interconnected references to reddit that are all due to free api access. As soon as those connections disappear, so dies the value to the entire community. It will be just like the garbage results we get from every single source now. This is the path of neo digital feudalism.

Honestly, not a bad opinion, when the wikis were done well, they did have some extremely useful information. I wonder if we could do something like that in Lemmy...