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Surveillance creep is once again striking in the age verification debate. This is happening at the FCC this time.

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It always was going to do this.

[–] sevenoverthree@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The cost of living in this world is simply resources paid into the arms race.

For me, I focus on what I want out of my tech services. Learn to build and learn to maintain. There will be ways to mask, spoof and anonymize.

And for sure, although it won't be today, there will be legislators who move against this trend. This is, and always has been, a matter of legislation. Separation from church and state is now separation of tech and state.

[–] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I emaoled my congresswoman about this. I told her not to support it and why; but more importantly, I told her that anyone with the technical acumen will simply not comply with this law.

That's the hidden cost of what orange Shitler has unleashed, the debasement of our public institutions. How powerful is a government that is ignored by its constituents?

[–] Comet79@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I am in the EU and after 2027 freedom of speech in big websites will be pretty much over. What measures can i take to protect myself from government censorship other than using decentralized websites like Lemmy?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Just go right for the cattle prod. Have them scan your mark.

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 8 points 4 days ago

Damn. Who could possibly have seen this coming?

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago
[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Papers are back! As in, "Where are your papers?".

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

The author gives the situation benefit of the doubt that it does not deserve. It is not "mutating" or "creeping;" the ABSOLUTELY INTENTIONAL, ORIGINAL PURPOSE is simply now becoming more and more obvious, even to the people who desperately want to pretend it isn't happening.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Oh look, another attack on the freedom of speech that anonymity allows. Here's hoping "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Many of us will. I will quit before I submit to this.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not defending this shit, I'm of course against it, but a true freedom of speech means you should not need to worry about hiding your identity when saying what you think. The law supposed to protect you from any repercussions from the government.

The fact that we do, means that perhaps freedom of speech was taken from us much earlier than that.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The law of the government was supposed to protect us from the government... Something tells me that was never going to work in the long term.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

That theory pretty much only works for a limited government with a clear separation of powers and some actual accountability.

[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

Can I preorder my satellite linked shock collar?

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago
[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

not the part of shadowrun i wanted to become reality

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Where are the elves?

[–] meowmeow@quokk.au -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Told ya, you fucking systemd simps. It’s all a really fucking wet slope.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

~~systemd has nothing to do with this lmao, if you see this and immediately think "this wouldn’t have happened if we didn’t let systemd discuss putting an age field 2 months ago!!!!!1!" you are severely, severely misled. to stay nice.~~

nvm i’m pretty sure this is just ragebait

[–] meowmeow@quokk.au 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hehe. The people who ignored systemd are the same people who don’t think any of this is a problem. The kind of people who can’t understand that you have to fight this kind of bullshit anytime it pops up or it eventually wins.

It just won.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i guarantee you the lawmakers who pass this kind of awful law have no idea what systemd even is or what it does

blaming it (or "systemd simps") for this is a colossal waste of time. the surveillance society has been progressively installed in the imperial core ever since 9/11, age verification and what’s it turning into is a consequence of this, and systemd adding an age field is a consequence of that.

blaming systemd for this shit, even in part, is so bafflingly silly, such a ridiculous example of swapping cause and effect that i can’t imagine you’re doing it sincerely but apparently people agree with this???

that’s like blaming the small creek in your garden for the existence of the raging river upstream. idk.

[–] meowmeow@quokk.au 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m blaming the PEOPLE who say “no biggie, just a number” who can’t seem to get it through their thick, dumb, argumentative skulls that these kind of things ALWAYS AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION lead to loss of privacy and more authoritarian laws.

There’s a big picture. Stop arguing the tiny points with me and SEE IT.

[–] MinFapper@startrek.website 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're shooting the messenger. Meta and others are lobbying governments hard for this. They're the ones causing you to lose your privacy. Not the volunteers that maintain systemd.

[–] meowmeow@quokk.au 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Then those volunteers can refuse. But they won’t, because they agree with this direction.

It’s plain as day. You’ll agree with me in a few years.

[–] MinFapper@startrek.website 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And you can go contact your local/state/federal government representatives (I mean actually call, or go to town halls). But you won't, because hating on systemd is more important to you than your privacy.

It's as plain as day. You'll agree with me in a few years.

[–] meowmeow@quokk.au 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lmfao, you think contacting reps is a thing that works in 2026? You must be over 60, right? With no clue where the world is going… or, you LOVE where the world is going… that’s probably more accurate.

[–] MinFapper@startrek.website 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, it's pretty clear that you're the one that LOVES where the world is going. You have zero interest in changing where things are going, you just want the satisfaction of saying "I told you so".

Well, guess what. Everyone else already knows everything you do. The volunteers are systemd aren't going go to jail for you. They haven't implemented age verification yet (no, an optional field in a schema is nothing close to verification) because they haven't been forced to yet. If laws pass such that they have to add it or go to jail, yes they'll implement it.

And when that happens, it will be because people like you took the effort to divide us instead of presenting a unified front against the corporations that are lobbying to take away our privacy.

But you won't care about the last part, because you'll be feeling too smug from "calling it".

[–] meowmeow@quokk.au 1 points 2 days ago

lol. No, you