How did Jeep lose the plot? It became a rolling fortress for tin soldiers.
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Well you just got me to listen to a guy rant in his basement bar for 25 minutes
I've revisited his channel off and on over the years. Most vids are, as the channel name implies, reviews of regular cars. I think it's the first long form video of his I've seen tackling a brand and what has become of its image. The humor and dry delivery is up my alley, and I figured it was worth sharing here.
I've also got family in rural PA and his basement bar could be any one of theirs. Those small towns and their old houses are frozen in time.
I camp on jeep trails all the time but I've never owned a jeep. Currently driving a lifted Subaru. Thinking about a Tacoma for the future.
Shit. I made edibles. Had to test them. Now high. This made me laugh way too much 🤣🫠
Jeeps were really innovative when they were created... in World War 2. That's when they really were off-road vehicles. The pattern was repeated again with the Humvee, or HMMVW. It's not just converted military vehicles either. It's also race cars and rally cars. Some series have rules that to be legal a car also has to be a production model. Sometimes if you get that exact model you get a race-capable car. But, mostly the cars they sell are variants of the race design, which maintain the fast-looking design, but one which would handle terribly if you put it on an actual racetrack.
I think a JLTV or Unicorn Stadium Super Truck is where the smart post-collapse money goes.
The JLTV apparently has a curb weight of 6.4 tonnes, that's almost 4x the weight of the modern oversized F150 at 1.8 tonnes. Not ideal for a post-collapse world where energy is expensive.
Those Stadium Super Trucks though. Also impractical, but those sure are goofy fun to watch.
Any car is no longer practical in a high energy cost world.
Now, a mule OTOH
"Off road" pretty much always means "on crude roads," and this bothers me more than it should
Some of those crude roads have boulders over a meter tall littered all about.
Every person I've known that has a Jeep: I LOVE MY JEEP!
Me: You never have any problems with it?
Everyone: Oh yeah, all the time. But it's a JEEP!
Honestly, never had a problem with mine for 7 years of abuse, significant offroad included. Daily driving city mileage, shit roads, off-road nonsense, salt air, beach driving... Thing was a blast. Went all over the country, did the national parks, overlanded in extremely remote areas.
Then the rocker arms gave out and I had a kid. So no more jeep. Edit: oh, and the dog we rescued ended up being 120 lbs. So a bit more room was kinda needed
The 4runner is almost as fun though. Almost.
"Just Empty Every Pocket," or "Just Expect Every Problem."
My parents bought a Chrysler/ Stellantis product to tow their camper after I told them to buy literally anything else. Unsurprisingly it's a heap of shit.
The engine has a plastic oil cooler - sits in the engine valley, it cracked and leaked oil everywhere at 40k miles. Their plastic intake manifold leaks and sometimes when you start the shitbox there is a strong odor of gasoline 60k. The plastic valve covers leak 70k. Needed an entire front accessory/pulley assembly because the water pump was leaking - made of......plastic 80k. Shocks and struts are shot and causing tread cupping on the tires - 90k. In addition to this, when i drive it around I notice a few things - it's loud as shit. The engine sounds like it has shit timing or a flat cam or something. Exterior noise is terrible you hear everything. It shifts like an automatic from the 80s and it has 27 gears so it shifts constantly. I'm so sad for them but Dad got a great "deal" on it, I wonder why.
It's always been like this. Jeeps famous inline 6 that everyone raves about had the oil filter directly over the alternator so every time you change the oil you spill dirty oil all over the vehicle's main electrical components. It's like it was designed by monkeys and no owner has ever seen a Toyota
Most Often Parked At Roadside. Company Highly Recommends You Start Learning Engine Repair. Doing Overhauls Daily Gets Expensive. Fix It Again Tony.
I think they might have gone with "Stellantis" because it's harder to make a derogatory acronym out of
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Big trucks and SUVs tend to be horrible off road
I would rather a old minivan
Depends how off road. Cottage dirt road? Yea thats fine. Genuine off road trail with 2+ feet of water in some puddles and rocks/ruts that you actually need some bumper height for? Mini van probably won't cut it.
I'm pretty sure my first gen Subaru Forester with a 1.5" lift has been in more fuckass places than 80% of jeeps ever sold.
Also more than 90% of pickup trucks.
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I backed over my neighbors' flower bed. Does that count?
I see wranglers and Tacoma's all day on the trail along with modified trucks y'all hate. 🤷♂️
It's fun to drive these cars, especially top down. It's always amusing to see nerds get riled up over these.
Other than that classic front grill and round headlights ... those things are just glorified hatchbacks with a lift-kit
The rubicons do have a good kit and package for off roading, they are rarely used for that when new these days. Locking differentials and thick metal skid plates for example are typically an off road specific feature.
I've known several friends who have gone out to buy and own Jeeps ... a few with Rubicons .. and I have yet to see any of them take them off roading, or even on a rough dirt road. I had one female friend who constantly kept hers shined up and would get terribly upset if any mud or dust accumulated on the paint finish.
The culture has changed. The rubicon has been a package offer for several models and years. Usually its the 3rd or 4th owner that finally takes advantage of the package.
Glorified hatchbacks with a lift-kit and a cult.
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