Harvey was wrong; that doesn't make murder right.
To the writer's credit, this is a great moral dilemma directly showing the results of Harvey's choices.
In the end, neither one was right, and Batman is (laudably) attempting to resolve it.
this post was submitted on 02 Jun 2026
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With Wayne money, city beaurocracy, and Dent's law skills, he's untouchable. Murder was the only remaining option for justice.
Murder is still murder, you're just justifying it for your own feelings.
'You're only allowed to fight oppression through electoralism, the Warsaw ghetto uprising was morally wrong! John Brown was evil for his actions! How dare you, Sir!"
that’s not such a popular take any more. luigi shows that murder is not the worst, it just depends on who and why
Almost no one says murder is the worst crime. (There's a reason murderers aren't as scared of their fellow prisoners as child molesters.) The person above is saying murder is still murder, regardless of justification, which is true. However, many, if not most, people will say there are circumstances which justify murder. Not to make it not murder, just make it ethically acceptable.
murder is murder, the implication of the post was that there was no justifying it. but that is not the popular opinion.
It is right and just to destroy men who have sold their souls to evil.
That was probably the last show that consistently had morally grey situations that children could understand. Entertainment is so black and white now with clear good and bad. It creates the expectation that people are only good or bad and one bad choice forever dooms a person to being bad. "Good" becomes an unattainable goal that fewer and fewer people can become until people stop trying.
Batman was one of the few shows that explored the consequences and recovery after bad choices.
You should watch Infinity Train. It's an animated series from 2019 about a train. I'd say more, but it's best to go in blind. And it shows the recovery after bad choices.
One thing to note is that you have to pirate it. There is no legal way to watch the series due to corporate fuckery yanking it from every streaming service and keeping it off. There are DVD's of the first two seasons, but they are rare. And there was never any physical media made of seasons 3 and 4.
It is a phenomenal show though and I highly recommend it. Just know you'll have to sail the high seas to do so.
it's generally the archetype that villains are right, some just do messed up things while at it
Especially in Batman: TAS.
Likewise, Magneto was right about humans and mutants.
I liked the episode, but it was unrealistic even by animated superhero standards.
The realistic version would have had Ivy going to Bruce long before construction began and proving the field had to be saved.
Now you've got a love triangle. Bruce is one of the few [the only?] guy she's met who takes her seriously and never looks below her eyeline. She's nuts about him, and hates Harvey, who is smitten.
And then Harvey's face gets burned...
Ivy is more and more an overt antihero. She basically, lowkey, always was.
I also doubt it's an unpopular opinion, but it's good to find these things out.