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[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 2 points 29 minutes ago (2 children)

If you want to know why lefties lose you need only look at the comments critical of this post.

It's absolutely valid to be displeased by how center or right-leaning the "left-wing" candidates are. But you have to accept that only supporting your perfect candidate is just going to keep pushing all candidates to the right as they lose.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

If you want to know why lefties lose

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

There's barely any social studies in the country, you'd think we didn't have an electoral college the way people think voting works

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Technically, this could move in the opposite direction.

It just never does, for some reason.

How could it in a dichotomy of progressivism vs conservatism? The suppressed side will always be the progressive side because progress will always threaten the elite that are propped up by the current system and the elites will almost always have unequal and overwhelming power relative to everyone else. The system is deeply flawed for you and I, but not for musk, gates, and Zuckerberg and as a result they will fight hard to keep things the same with their disproportionate amount of resources

Especially so when the flawed system is designed to create oligarchs, so even if all 900 or so billionaires died tonight they’d rapidly be replaced (and likely lead to even more wealth concentration once the dust settles)

It's almost like political hierarchies run by the Epstein class and centrists prefer conservatism over progress.

[–] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Or, now here me out, Dems could run a platform people want to vote for?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

That's the joke. The vote blue no matter who enables fascists, so saying it's what they fear is funny.

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 2 points 4 hours ago

But then how would the billionaire keep their money?

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Please tell me this is ironic

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] yakko@feddit.uk 1 points 49 minutes ago

It would be if I reposted it

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

No its, vote blue no matter who* only applicable if the said blue candidate is not progressive

and the whole fucking time we are voting in primaries, it’s all “progressive candidates can’t win the election” and astroturfed lies and slander using democratic funds to hurt itself in its own confusion. want my vote? field candidates that i would vote for.

and no kings is performative at best

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

want my vote? field candidates that i would vote for.

I hope you still go to the polls and write-in if you don't like either candidate.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

i voted harris for president, but at this point i am so disgusted with how the democrats are acting that i will vote third party if needed.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 56 points 11 hours ago (20 children)

Gang, this isn't complicated. You fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year. On election day you pick the lesser evil, which hopefully all that fighting you did made much less evil. We have an archaic election system, and until that changes (work to change it), that's the best path forward.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 29 minutes ago

fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year

just to be accused of supporting teh republicans? i mean i'll do it, but lets be honest: the democrat supporters aren't trying to have a good faith discussion about the shortcomings of the party.

[–] silver13@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

As an non-american, how this is not crystal clear even for the most hardcore communists is an absolute mystery to me.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Civics education is bad to nonexistent so they do not learn about the spoiler effect, let alone the inevitable math behind first past the post elections. People vote based on how they think the system ought to function instead of how it actually functions.

In other words, voting isn't enough: it's merely the first step. After "your guys" are in power, you should bully them into keeping their promises and doing more

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Fellas please, an election is not the time and place to make your voice heard.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You must have missed this part where you are making your voice heard by picking the least bad option, so here it is again:

On election day you pick the lesser evil, which hopefully all that fighting you did made much less evil.

Or maybe you're confused about how things ought to be versus how they actually are, that too was covered:

We have an archaic election system, and until that changes (work to change it), that’s the best path forward.

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