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[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 75 points 3 weeks ago (63 children)

Gang, this isn't complicated. You fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year. On election day you pick the lesser evil, which hopefully all that fighting you did made much less evil. We have an archaic election system, and until that changes (work to change it), that's the best path forward.

[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

In other words, voting isn't enough: it's merely the first step. After "your guys" are in power, you should bully them into keeping their promises and doing more

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember when the vote blue no matter who people told us they were gonna move Biden left after he was elected?

Good times.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now they say he’s the most progressive President we ever had. So progressive he lost us abortion.

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[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

How do you bully people by guaranteeing your support for them unconditionally?

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[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you should bully them into keeping their promises and doing more

How?

[–] silver13@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

As an non-american, how this is not crystal clear even for the most hardcore communists is an absolute mystery to me.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Because the US first past the post system ensures there's only two parties. So unless you can threaten one, you don't have input.

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[–] architect@thelemmy.club 5 points 2 weeks ago

Because it’s logically stupid and ushered in fascism.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Civics education is bad to nonexistent so they do not learn about the spoiler effect, let alone the inevitable math behind first past the post elections. People vote based on how they think the system ought to function instead of how it actually functions.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

As a non-american, you aren't close enough to notice that the people who say this are taking advantage of the situation and have been for decades.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

As a non-american, here in my country leftists vote for many different parties, each too small to actually pass the threshold

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 12 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Gang, this isn't complicated. You make demands, but declare ahead of time you will not take any action to harm the Dems by not voting for them, and this give up all leverage. Then they continue to lock in GOP policies, that's tye best path forward.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (51 children)

Fellas please, an election is not the time and place to make your voice heard.

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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

fight the Democratic establishment 364 days a year

just to be accused of supporting teh republicans? i mean i'll do it, but lets be honest: the democrat supporters aren't trying to have a good faith discussion about the shortcomings of the party.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Get called a trumper 364 days a year by people who love how much like trump the democratic establishment is constantly trying to become.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fun story, my second-to-last straw with Reddit was being banned from r/democrats for saying Biden should not seek a second term (too old) and they need to hold a primary. I said this repeatedly starting about a year before the election and was called all manner of terrible things while accumulating loads of up and downvotes. When the time for a primary passed I pivoted my message to: Biden should retire (play up a medical issue) so we have the first female president and she has the incumbent bump for the election. I was banned with the message "Shut up, Biden is going to get a second term. Deal with it [inappropriate language]." twelve days before Biden dropped out.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are they still refusing to admit Mamdani exists?

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

No, now they claim somehow that's proof their VBNMW nonsense works.

Despite Mandami showing it only goes one way

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 weeks ago

The Dems get worse every cycle.

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