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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] mrlockthorne@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It doesn't help that a lot of farmers are handicapped by the strong arm of capitalism and can't invest in better, sustainable, practices that would help crops.

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't help that a lot of farmers voted for this shit lmao

[–] mrlockthorne@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And a lot of Muslims voted for Trump in hopes for an end to Gaza. The voters may have been wrong in placing their hopes in him and the Republican party, but neither party has helped farmers in the ways that are needed. The blame still rests on the government, and corporations.

I try to stay away from blaming the working class for the ruling class' failures. It's not their fault, for the most part. They are just a useful cog in the machine, much like us all.

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know dawg. I talk to farmers and they're vile people. I give credit to the working class by default but farmers are just so consistently genuinely bad people that I retract that one credit for them specifically.

[–] mrlockthorne@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that you have had such poor experience with farmers. The ones I know are lovely people. But even still, would it not benefit us to instead wish only the best for farmers and advocate for them, even if they are ignorant and hateful? Would that not still be of great benefit to the countless innocents involved with the lives of these farmers? If they see people care about them, how could they ever believe the lies that they are hated?

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But even still, would it not benefit us to instead wish only the best for farmers and advocate for them, even if they are ignorant and hateful?

To a point, but in Denmark we're past that. Most farmers are rich and they keep whining about everything and they demand compensation for the tiniest little things. The vast majority are currently poisoning our ground-water supply and are demanding a ransom to stop doing it. If I have to drink poisoned water because they are too lazy to care about managing their spillways or, you know, not using souped up fertilizers and fucked up pesticides, then I have no reservations for them and I hope they get everything they deserve.

I want to flip farming upside down. I think it should be run by people who want to be farmers and not by people who have correctly realized that farming is possibly one of the easiest jobs in Denmark if you can get a foot in the door. These people are vile capitalists who vote against their own interest to spite everyone else and I just don't see a future where they are allowed to keep strangling society like this.

6000 farmers own 2/3rds of the landmass in Denmark and have the most disproportionate amount of political influence per person. If they wanted to do good things, they could.

[–] mrlockthorne@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firstly, let me say thank you for such a thoughtful response. Second, I had no idea farming in Denmark was so lucrative. In America, they are poor, usually on government assistance, and strong armed by a corporation for quotas, or certain agricultural practices. E.g. One of my friends cannot let it get out that they have been working on a pest resistant crop for a certain area, because the "start" was a seed that is the IP of some corporation.

A lot of the farmers I know in America hate the pesticide and fertilizer industry. My friend has tried sustainable growth and natural pest deterrents and was sent a cease and desist, because they used some land for crops to do it. Even though their yield was, I believe, equal to previous years.

The farmers I know, and that they know, for into it for the love of it, but they have just been consistently screwed on all fronts by Congress and corporations.

Again, thank you for such a thoughtful response. I learned so much and I'm so sorry that it has gotten that way in Denmark. I know not enough, to argue against you and I apologize if any of my responses came across as ignorant.

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I likewise appreciate the insight into the North American perspective! I honestly thought it was the same situation.

[–] mrlockthorne@slrpnk.net 2 points 18 hours ago

Same! When I looked up the salary of farmers in Denmark, I was astonished. Such a glaring difference. I hope all of our situations get better in their respective regards. I hope you have a fantastic...evening? I think midnight, maybe?

[–] n4ch1sm0@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

And that they often vote for people who would rather watch them starve and die before ever helping them, or anyone else in the working class.

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Wow that's crazy. If only something could be done about that.

My money is on brawndo. Brawndo everywhere.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Don't forget the departments that handle weather sensing capabilities were one of the first things being diminished as well.