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The Fediverse's Censorship Problem is Worse Than Reddit's (piefed.zip)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Jorvex609@piefed.zip to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

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Remember when the whole point of leaving Reddit was escaping heavy-handed moderation and echo chambers? Yeah, about that.

I've been banned more times in the fediverse in a few months than I ever was in years on Reddit. At least on Reddit, the rules exist and you can see them—even if enforcement is spotty, you know what you're supposedly violating. Here, it's whatever mood the local mod is in that day.

Got banned today from lemmy.ca for "AI slop." There's no such rule anywhere on the instance. The real reason? My post didn't fit their narrow ideological box. No debate, no warning, no discussion—just the banhammer.

The fediverse promised freedom from corporate censorship. What we got instead is a bunch of small fiefdoms run by virtue-signaling mods who silence anyone who steps one toe outside their approved narrative. It's more fragmented, more arbitrary, and honestly more authoritarian than the platform we all supposedly fled.

Decentralization without a real commitment to free expression is just decentralization of censorship.

edit: I've written an article with my opinions on the topic.
The Opium of the Labels: How Woke Moralism Serves Capital

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[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I'm not going to comment on whether it was right to be banned, but I will point out that there's a certain irony in you using AI to write a post in which you say people are complaining about your AI usage

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

No, actually, I left Reddit because it was full of Reddituers.

[–] chris@im.allmendenetz.de 14 points 1 week ago

@Jorvex609

Decentralization without a real commitment to free expression is just decentralization of censorship.

sure - just open up your own instance

[–] prototype_g2@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

https://xkcd.com/1357

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, you should have been banned for transphobia instead.

[+] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There goes another 'leftist' virtue-signaling, doing the job of three-letter agencies by creating division among the people.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Opposing transphobia is the opposite of creating division, it's siding with marginalized allies.

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

cat-trans

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

🫡

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Opposing transphobia is class solidarity. Dividing the working class by excluding marginalized voices only weakens us all.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Correct, which is why we must resolutely combat transphobia, queerphobia, racism, and ableism.

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Did that really work with Hogwarts Legacy? I remember people buying multiple copies just to spite the boycott. If you push harder with this kind of moral absolutism, you're not building solidarity—you're creating backlash. The more you label and exclude, the more you hand ammunition to the far-right. That's not class consciousness; that's performative purity testing that alienates the very people we need to organize.

Morgan Freeman: if you want to get rid of racism just stop talking about it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're alienating queer folk by minimizing their struggles, and making the equivalent argument to saying organizing the working classes just gives ammo to capitalists to crush worker organizing. It's fatalism and has no place in any socialist movement. Queer liberation isn't about "labeling people," it's about establishing protection and sovereignty for some of society's more vulnerable, who form a part of the broader working classes that usually take on a more revolutionary position due to their precarious position.

You're alienating some of the best comrades in order to apply a vulgar and dogmatic view of class struggle that bleeds more into metaphysics than dialectics.

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're proving my point by framing this as a binary choice—either adopt your specific brand of identity politics or be a bigot—and that's not dialectics, it's gatekeeping that ignores the actual class struggle while you police my language instead of focusing on material exploitation like child labor or wage slavery that affects all workers regardless of identity; solidarity isn't built on purity tests, it's built on shared economic interest, and when you alienate workers for not using perfect phrasing, you're just shrinking the tent until it only fits your clique while the real world burns under capitalism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Exploitation of queer and marginalized comrades is a material process as well. Queer folk are regularly exploited at higher rates, which forces many into less favorable jobs, lower pay, and less choice due to having stricter employment requirements. Immigrants face similar struggles, forming a separate striation of the proletariat that is uniquely exploited beyond the rest of the proletariat. It isn't about phrasing, it's about establishing a coherent, correct, principled line and not alienating the working classes by taking a socially reactionary position.

The fact that queer and other marginalized groups are exploited at higher rates than their non-marginalized fellow workers is key to Marxist analysis.

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -3 points 1 week ago

I agree that queer and marginalized workers face unique and heightened exploitation under capitalism—that's a material reality I don't dispute—but my point is that you're treating these struggles as separate from class rather than interwoven with it, and by demanding absolute ideological conformity on every social issue as a prerequisite for solidarity, you're fracturing the very working-class unity needed to fight the system that exploits all of us; the goal isn't to ignore specific oppressions but to build a broad coalition where we can disagree on tactics and phrasing while still recognizing our shared enemy, because without that unity, we're just fighting each other while capital wins.

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, you’re the one creating division with your queerphobic bullshit.

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Could you be more specific? Because to me it feels like you are just making up stuff.

The CIA Document That Predicted Wokism (1985)

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

identity politics divides the working class

Get banned more, homophobe

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Proving my point: Your divisive rhetoric pushes the working class toward fascism by ignoring material conditions for identity politics. Do you care about child labor exploitation, or just labels? You’re a bourgeois moralist who doesn’t care about exploitation—just virtue-signaling.

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Get banned more, racist.

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Classic—no argument, just name-calling. You've called me a homophobe and now a racist in under an hour without a single quote to back it up. This lazy labeling is exactly why working people tune out and drift right. And btw, the fascists are the ones who disregard words and choose violence instead—maybe you're the fascist here. How do you like my virtue signaling?

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if you want to get rid of racism just stop talking about it.

Eat shit, racist.

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There it is—when the name-calling fails, just double down on it. You've got nothing but labels and hostility, which is exactly why working people don't take you seriously.

[–] Trying2KnowMyself@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Happy to double down on the labels for you (while providing the quotes from you that demonstrate them), it’s quite clear how much you hate people with any type of labels.

I’ve provided quotes from you that demonstrate your hatred and it’s quite clear to the other folks in this thread that you’re a bigot.

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've written an article about my opinions on the topic. The Opium of the Labels: How Woke Moralism Serves Capital

[–] formlessoedon@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Would it really have been too much effort to write this yourself instead of with AI? It's fucking four paragraphs man

Also I bet I've been banned more (& for cooler reasons) so grow up

[–] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hmm... I've heard the phrase "woke moralist" somewhere, where could it be from...

Oh I remember! It's this guy: up-yours-woke-moralists

[–] Jorvex609@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You better not use any words he uses. /s Braindead argument.

[–] abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es 7 points 1 week ago

@Jorvex609 Maybe its time to create your own instance.

You cant do that on #reddit...

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

No I left reddit because of the api changes

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 7 points 1 week ago

At least on Reddit, the rules exist and you can see them—even if enforcement is spotty, you know what you're supposedly violating. Here, it's whatever mood the local mod is in that day.

No one is preventing Reddit mods from banning you for arbitrary reasons that aren't in the rules. So this is just pro-Reddit proganada there.

The difference here is that the modlog is public. There's transparency.

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

idk, I got banned from reddit-logo repeatedly and more often than that, mods silently removed my comments without making it clear. I've never had anything like that happen on Lemmy.

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Before I can make any judgement, could you provide a list of the posts that got you banned, their content and the communities with the relevant rules? You may well have been up to no-good, and I can’t support you should that be the case. I presume you weren’t posting photos of you favorite bunny.

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago

Being banned isnt "censorship". If people dont want to hear what you are saying, that's within their rights to block you. These are connected communities and if you arent wanted in one because of what you are posting, its working as intended.

If you are posting AI shit, don't. No one wants that crap here. Go back to reddit to be a bot.