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Hear hear buddy! That's all we want, a get together and lurk on.
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11 years with Reddit in September here.
As some other people have mentioned, I have missed that rawness of old internet forums, and I feel like this brings it back in some way. Which I love, as Reddit was becoming too corporate, which has obviously been their downfall.
I feel as I can be more active on here, though I became more and more active on Reddit as time went on, but didn't really enjoy it.
So far it has helped me have a healthier use of social media - simply because an app doesn't exists. Opening Apollo countless times in a day wasn't exactly a good thing and it resulted in mostly mindless scrolling for quickfixes of "content". Now opening a browser and going to beehaw.org is a bit more of a conscious effort and it encourages taking a bit more time to read what is being written and then come back a few hours later to check up again.
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I do not reply to Reddit's threads at all but Lemmy somehow makes me feel like I'm part of this community. Enjoying my time here very much.
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I've been trying to contribute here more than I did on Reddit, and honestly I'm amazed how smooth it's been.
Lots of small UI frustrations, but I can already see the pull requests lining up, so I'm happy to wait.
I think it's equally good to reddit, and with a better community spirit. :) No bots or angry people yet...
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE ARE NO ANGRY PEOPLE YOU FUCKWIT!
(I'm just joking. Are we doing /s here?)
if lemmy grows, the trolls and bots will come... but that's a problem for the future!
I’ve seen a little bit of the instance on my front page(?) already, kudos! Honestly your aplomb to posting and trying to contribute - even recreating a favorite community - is very reassuring. I have high hopes for the Fediverse :)
aw thanks, just doing my part!
I would like to hear more about the move to Voat, what caused the failure in your opinion? I was not part of that as I had other things going on at the time.
Guessing it failed because the migration was weighted towards people who were the least welcome on reddit, some maybe unfairly, but there are also good reasons to not want certain people/behaviors around.
It was a strange time, I saw communities I used to enjoy like r/conspiracy overran by contemporary politics and thinly veiled antisemitism. All the fun went out of it seemingly overnight.
Voat attracted quite a number of people that were on the extreme end of things.
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Not an expert, but it boils down to two main factors for me:
The biggest factor is the nature of the userbase that migrated. As with Voat, there are (i) people driven here by ideological means ("it doesn't affect me but I believe the change is wrong"), and (ii) people who have no other option ("I need a new home because the change makes reddit less useful for me"). Of all the folks who belong to (i), i wouldn't be surprised if majority move back to reddit quietly over the next 2 months. The reality is that people are used to reddit, and it contains a decade's worth of information and social networks that lemmy doesn't have. It's simply easier to find info on reddit. That leaves (ii), which will probably make up the majority of long-term migrants. Unfortunately for Voat, (ii) was comprised of people who post/read actively on hate subs. /v/fatpeoplehate was one of the top, er... subs? at Voat. When your userbase is gathered around one specific, kinda-toxic purpose, it's hard to see it succeed. For lemmy, (ii) consists of people with strong preferences for third-party mobile apps. I don't know for sure, but I think these folks are (like me) long-time redditors, power users, and generally contribute more than usual. Third-party users are also more diverse, and don't have one specific interest. That is a more self-sustaining community.
A smaller factor is the nature of the site. Voat was basically reddit, with less moderation. Literally no other improvements. The fediverse is interesting, and I think it's better. Even if you disagree, it's still objectively different. A relatively small site can't succeed against a behemoth if it's exactly the same.
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It only gets more interesting with each day :)
looking forward to it!
I find Lemmy generally more welcoming to post comments. Its likely because of the lack of bots and trolls. Let's hope they stay clear from here.
i'm sure it'll come, but we'll deal with it then!
Yeah exactly. Being a a not-for-profit open-source project, I'd expect features to eventually be put into place to help moderate this kind of stuff in the future.
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I've definitely also noticed the difference, I'd pretty much stopped commenting at all on reddit. But if feels different here, we'll, not so much different but reminds me of those older Internet message board days.
Yes! Same feeling for me.
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This feels super exciting like when I was alternating between digg and reddit before digg started dying in 2010.
yeah, and i haven't even felt the need to check reddit for a day now!
I am with you 100%. Even though there is a learning curve, it's not too bad. If the process gets simplified I think it might take off more. I forgot all about voat. I remember when the fatpeoplehate subreddit got banned they all went there.
Hey, welcome to our little corner of the world. May your time here be fruitful
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I agree, this place is a breath of fresh air compared to the toxic cesspool named Reddit. Also thanks for giving me another new community to subscribe to!
I have been a reddit since the great digg migration. I am enjoying the fediverse experience so far. It makes me realize how much reddit had slowly changed into a place i did not like as much.
What ruined it for me was hidden viral marketing and low-effort karmar whores. I think it was HailCorporate which highlighted just how many posts were straight up viral marketing attempts, and how many of these were posted from accounts with a strange comment history. I couldn't unsee it after that.
As for karma whores.... it's funny to see a pun chain, but not when that's the top comment for 99% of all popular posts.
Any examples?
well... go to /r/HailCorporate and sort by all-time top scores.
Here's a specific example, although you may not be able to see the actual post until/if the sub is back up https://www.reddit.com/r/HailCorporate/comments/6cq3xe/i_told_popular_shaving_company_i_was_canceling/
I can't stomach too much corporate content, so that's why I asked if you had only one good example of it ^^
What happened to hailcorporate anyway ? I remember a few years back it was cited or showed up on my feed regularly, but you made me realize it stopped at some point.
It seemed like there was a backlash against it. At some point you would get downvoted for citing hailcorporate in comments. If I were more conspiratorial-minded, I would think that Reddit started throwing in downvotes at any comments mentioning hailcorporate, because it would hurt Reddit's image and advertiser-friendliness. But I've noticed that, across social media, some folks seem to get really upset when you point out that a post is fake/marketing/staged. So maybe that's just online culture now...
Edit: there were legitimate issues with people citing hailcorporate on posts that they just didn't like. But that seemed relatively minor to me.
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I saw someone edit a post title and it blew my mind. I'm liking it here so far too. There's a few kinks to work out, but I don't think the learning curve is too bad. The Jerboa app is fine too.
ooh there's an app? down another rabbit hole I go...
yeeahh Jerboa for android and I think the IOS app is called Mlem
downloaded Jerboa, thanks!
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Same story here. Probably about a decade using Reddit and it just aint what it used to be even 5 years ago, forget 10 years ago.
I started off just looking for an alternative but quickly warmed to the whole idea of the fediverse (after I figured out what it is lmao). Feels like it hits a really good balance between old-style internet forums and modern-style social media.
It made me realize we don't have to settle for a 1:1 clone - we can build something better. Something that can't be held hostage by a bunch of shareholders and execs, or run into the ground by one asshole.
I think there's a chance to make something really fucking awesome here and I'd rather contribute to that than go back to doomscrolling on Reddit. At this point, I don't think I'd go back even if they miraculously reversed everything.
Yes, this feels freer. It can't be affected in the same way Spez is messing up Reddit. I'm waiting for more content (I will probably make some myself) that isn't just talking about Rexxit or switching over.
Towards the end browsing Reddit just made me angry instead of providing entertainment. Like you mention, what really got under my skin were all the ads disguised as genuine posts, and then all the bots asking for a place to purchase the item advertised.
Do you remember a time where news would break on Reddit and the it would be two or three hours later you would see cable news stations pick it up? It hasn’t happened on Reddit for a very long time. Happened to me yesterday here on Lemmy for the first time. That was a nice feeling. It reminded me of how good reddit once was and how bad it is today. But more importantly, it showed me that Lemmy isn’t just a reddit replacement, it’s looks like it’s the future of the internet.
Anyways, I guess I don’t really have a point, just needed an excuse to shit on reddit again. Fuck reddit.
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