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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 20 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

uhg. more starve the beast nonsense..

step 1, defund program step 2, point out how terrible program is and that clearly it needs to be privatized step 3, program is canceled. for-profit incentive costs for services far exceed successful public costs

god forbid they just actually pay for services and medical personnel. maybe if we all werent collectively spending 50% of GDP on the planet on killing each other we could afford to healthcare each other.

assholes.

It's such a stupid framing. If the NHS is responsible for fewer years in good health now, then it was equally responsible for more years in good health 15 years ago.

So we should ask what has changed in the NHS to make the outcomes worse? Austerity and creeping privatisation, for a start.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 8 points 4 hours ago

Lemmy is certainly quieter than other social media, but it's nice how much more common sane opinions are.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

maybe if we all werent collectively spending 50% of GDP on the planet on killing each other we

Eh? Global military spending is 2.5% of GDP (Source)

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Ah sorry I thought the 50% bit was from the article not a child to a reply.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I said this before but make it super easy and affordable to live healthy lives. Subsidise the crap out of well built community gyms that are within reach for all ages. They exist but are very expensive. Subsidise the crap out of healthy foods that are easy to prepare like access to fruit and vegetables.

It baffles me that people live their lives smoking, vaping, getting smashed, and eating kebabs and then end up with lung cancer / obesity that the NHS needs to find funds to look after. I'm not saying we should outlaw these things, who doesn't like a cheeky kebab? But we're rapidly turning into the US and expecting the NHS to just pick up the problems.

If you viewed the national health as preventative rather than reactionary these things would already be in place.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It baffles me that people live their lives smoking, vaping, getting smashed, and eating kebabs

It does? If I read enough headlines in a single day, I feel like I’d love to get smashed into a fine powder, or vaporized, or turn myself into a kebab.