I resent the ubiquity of the language of sports in political matters. It is reductive in framing and trivial in tone.
Me too, well said.
It's incredibly gross to see these two groups as "teams" competing against one another while fans watch from the sidelines for entertainment.
That's why I stopped trying.
People arguing whether babies were beheaded as if they're challenging a ref call. Their team is always right and 100% just, the other is always wrong and 100% evil and no one wants to hear that the truth is always gray and complex.
It's disheartening.
You could copy and paste a list of historical events from Wikipedia and spark a flame war, unfortunately.
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move"
With how many atrocities occur in this messed up world (and the Middle East especially), it’s hard to keep caring and see it as anything other than a sport in a faraway place.
The news is emotionally draining on purpose, or so I think.
@knexcar compassion fatigue? This is something social media can help with, ironically.
I remember a few years ago when I was back on another site, a poster who was trialling 3D-printed field tourniquets (he was a medic) posted about his experience being shot in the leg by Israeli snipers who shot his colleague dead later that day.
Really brought home that these are just people like you and me, with hobbies and jobs and lives... and comment histories.
Well, the full quote is:
And based on what I’ve seen that appears as though it was done by the other team, not you,
He is refering to the Israeli evidence given, he's not giving new information distinct from that
He is refering to the Israeli evidence given
Which is still dumb as fuck...
Israel has shown time and time again they'll exaggerate evidence or flat out make it up.
They went full fascist long ago. And fascists first instinct is always to say evidence proves theyre right, but then try not to show anyone because it was a lie.
He is refering to the Israeli evidence given. Which is still dumb as fuck…
you know that the initial claim was straight from the Hamas itself, right?
If you're saying Hamas said that Hamas blew up their own hospital in Gaza...
No, I haven't heard that and I'm going to need an actual source saying that. And Israel's government doesn't count because obviously they're not a reliable source.
Man, you can really tell who hasn't engaged with the matter aside from headlines.
Not even Israel claims that it was Hamas who fired the rocket. You would know that, if you would have spend just a little bit of your time actually reading articles instead of just commenting under them.
If you’re saying Hamas said that Hamas blew up their own hospital in Gaza…No, I haven’t heard that and I’m going to need an actual source saying that.
The initial claim was that Israel did blew up the hospital and this claim was made by the Hamas Ministry of Health itself.
The number of people killed in the strike on the al-Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital has risen to at least 500, according to the Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza. https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-latest-updates-gaza-sky-news-live-blog-12978800?postid=6592711#liveblog-body
Gaza's Ministry of Health says at least 500 people were killed and injured. Both agencies are under the militant Islamist Hamas-led government. https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/asien/israel-hamas-krankenhaus-100.html (German News station)
The initial claim was that Israel did blew up the hospital
So yeah, if something gets blown up in Gaza, who else is likely responsible?
If Gaza said the sun was coming up tomorrow would you say it wouldn't?
"the initial claim" as in Hamas said that it was Israel.
Well, who else would have done it?
Elon Musk and Harlem Globetrotters?
Then again, the other side is Hamas and Islamic Jihad with so far no evidence. I am not trusting Israel blindly, but neither do I trust those two blindly. It's entirely possible that Islamic Jihad fucked up big time and Hamas tried to pin this on Israel. As far as fact checking goes, it probably needs a bit more time, but so far Israel's claims and evidence seem to check out.
No, the "other side" is all the civilians stuck between two genocidal militaries that don't see the other sides civilians as humans.
Neither militaries are the "good guys".
But if you can only understand black and white conflicts:
The difference is Gaza's last election was before the majority of its citizens were born. And Israel has mandated military service and choose to have their current government
The other side of statememts regarding who is at fault for attack on the hospital.
The implication of your statement is that Hamas doesn't exaggerate, or fabricate, stories and evidence to feed their information war.
FWIW, I agree with the words in your statement, but I disagree with the intention behind them, for the reasons I provided up top.
Apologies for the Daily Mail, but this is an audio recording of two Hamas fighters discussing the blast and stating it was from a botched rocket launch in a graveyard behind the hospital.
You can say they just made this up, but at that point you should at least admit that there is no possible evidence that would change your mind and that your view is completely inflexible.
What's wild is that on Twitter, the official Israel account posted video "proof" of it being a rocket misfire has now edited their tweets to remove the video. Most likely because the videos are timestamped 20 minutes after the first reports of the hospital blast.
Speaking alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Biden said: "I was deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion of the hospital in Gaza yesterday, and based on what I've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you."
"But there's a lot of people out there not sure, so we’ve got a lot, we’ve got to overcome a lot of things," Biden added.
If they have proof that the hospital attack was a Hamas misfire, I will hear their information.
I've watched every video they've posted, and every one seems like a patriot system intercepting a missile. So I keep holding out for a video that shows the moment of the hospital destruction, but so far, no luck.
~~I am starting to think we might never know, considering that Biden is going to commit to this story. Whether it can be verified or not.~~
Though, as far as Israel being the intelligence capital of the middle east. Let's just say, I've received better reporting/verification from Ukraine operations and they don't get 5 billion a year for intelligence.
Edit: new video has been discovered of the incident,
So I keep holding out for a video that shows the moment of the hospital destruction, but so far, no luck.
You won't get it. Remember that Hamas rockets are like two steps removed from being made in somebody's backyard. They don't have this kind of firepower.
Edit: I'd seen a wrong picture. Nevermind.
Netanyahu's spokesman also boasted that Israel did the attack.
There are drone videos showing destroyed cars in a parking lot and the hospital standing.
Not good from Biden here.
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