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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This article was written by a centralized bank that received huge tax payer bailouts in 2008 because their executives were too busy fucking over the average American.

[–] ZombieTheZombieCat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Obligatory fuck psypost. The most click bait, sensationalized headlines for small sample correlational studies that almost always have a divisive basis, like "democrats are better at x than republicans," or "men are better at x than women" or some shit. I got so sick of seeing it on the front page of reddit every single day because there were ten different subs reposting the same articles.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like nothing’s changed

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well something did change. It is no longer 2008.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago

And banks are no longer required to hold your money. Thank god.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

People who invest in bitcoin aren't much better.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

DeFi was supposed to be a rad lefty thing in its conception. Conservatives can truly ruin anything.

[–] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Everything they touch turns to the gold standard

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rad-lefty?

Rich people can hoard their money without the government?

How much further right can you get?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a very small frame you're prompting me to respond within. Fiat currency is a big complex issue and every attempt to subvert it is also necessarily complex

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Yes, but rich people have, at the end of the day, been at the mercy of the state for currency and protection, and the state can shift left and right.

Once they are free from the state for currency, there is only protection left, and they can buy that, with their currency.

I'm on crypto because I see which way the wind is blowing, and it's blowing away from anyone with less than $50m by the end of the decade.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

It was never a "lefty thing". It was a right wing libertarian thing from its inception, and that hasn't changed at all.

[–] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Then, researchers compared the alignment of crypto enthusiasts with what are known as “binding moral foundations” (Authority, Purity, and Loyalty) – typically associated with political conservatives – to “individualizing foundations” (Fairness and Care) which are often linked to liberals.

IMHO, that is a really strange set of "moral foundations".

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah... Almost like those "moral foundations" are what you would expect of the third reich.

Probably just a coincidence, though.

[–] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't see how cryptocurrency exemplifies loyalty or authority.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago

Our analyses of a large set of Bitcoin tweets and a controlled survey indicate that binding moral foundations (Authority, Purity, and Loyalty) that are more closely associated with political conservatives better reflect one’s interest in cryptocurrency than individualizing foundations (Fairness and Care).”

So it's sentiment analysis of a specific community (Bitcoin). The Bitcoin community has been more libertarian and toxic than others, in my experience. But I wouldn't ascribe those attributes to the wider crypto community.

meh

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But does it really surprise you? Sounds spot on to me.

[–] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yes. I think people like bitcoin because it is decentralized. There aren't banks or government that control the currency. There is no authority. I don't see anything unfair about it. On top of that, I don't understand how loyalty, care, or purity relate to bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's related because according to the study, those are the core beliefs of the people who like crypto.

[–] wtfeweguys@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 3 points 2 years ago

Not sure who they surveyed. Sure as hell didn’t ask me.

[–] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The purpose of the study was not to determine the core beliefs of the people who like crypto, it was to compare how crypto enthusiasts aligned with selected moral foundations.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay fair enough, it's a better description but I think a bit splitting hairs.

[–] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

I think a bit splitting hairs

Maybe so. I wonder if there is some sort of class I can take that would help me to not do that.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

It's basically properties of fascism vs egalitarianism. They're not pulling them from nothing.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That sounds like "the righteous mind" bs. It included purity as a core value.

[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sounds correct to me.

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Crypto itself isn't an issue. My view has always been that it wasn't meant to be an investment, but a currency. The issues are the grifters and loons that promote this as an investment.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

And incidentally, the rampant speculation around them has rendered them mostly worthless as a currency due to the high fluctuations in price

[–] febra@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

The most obnoxious people I've ever met were all conspiracy loonie right wing crypto bros

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

That explains a lot actually.

[–] StalksEveryone@futurology.today 2 points 2 years ago

i thought i was getting my bumps from mexico wtf mccarthy

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

This is surprising to me tbh. I always assumed crypto bros were left leaning.

[–] AnarchoDakosaurus@toast.ooo 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Must not have spent much time in crypto spaces. I would say they trend along the lines of Joe Rogan fans, but they are definitely more " bro libertarian " then leftist if anything.

There are some leftists who are into crypto currencies, but by and large most of the crypto space is dominated by anti game stop bois,investors, business moguls, drug dealers and small business owners.

Not exactly a huge overlap with leftist ideals there.

[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 14 points 2 years ago

Back in the day when I was briefly into bitcoin (for the mining, which was still possible back then using GPUs) the bitcoin.org forums were mostly populated by americans who were sticking it to 'the fed' and had a deep distrust of authority. Some of them were seriously unhinged.. I didn't hang around there for long - only so much crazy I can cope with.

When I saw the people in silly costumes storming the whitehouse on TV that's exactly the kind of person I can imagine was posting on the bitcoin forums.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Crypto bros are likely overwhelmingly libertarian since a lot of crypto bro mentality gels with that ideology, particularly that it makes currency decentralized and more controlled by private entities. Cryptocurrencies as a whole will have various aspects that may appeal to other groups, however. Like yeah, it'd be great if we could reduce the power that banks have over us, but cryptocurrency often devolves into whoever has the most coins controls everything, critically with proof of stake systems. I'm convinced that bitcoin is only as valued now because rich people (who got their riches outside of bitcoin) have controlled it and are playing games with it.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago

The only people currently using crypto do so in order to get rich.

Don't see many left leaning people worshipping money and throwing everyone they can under the bus in order to make capital.

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[–] Companion1666@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago

FFS, make SHIB's value to $0.01!

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