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There are special dowels for drywall.
Maybe not there where you are but there are.
Yes, but those don't work for heavy applications like this. They usually have a weight rating, one well under a full rack of clothes... Just put it into the wall studs, it's easy enough.
Well please excuse my German stubbornness... The drywall anchors (thanks @stevehobbes@lemm.ee for the word) I know and often installed were certified up to 40 kilogram - per anchor (single layer drywall, one anchor per meter as a rule of thumb). A rack full of stuff like in the picture won't have more than 50 kilogram load (static load - please tell your kids not to climb onto the shelves) so two such anchors would have handled that easily, and there's plenty of room to install more than two.
I understand that other parts of the world live up to other standards.
Agree - have previously fixed a wooden bed frame to drywall using 4 such anchors with no problems. Not as daft as it sounds - it was probably only supporting 20% of the bed and the weight on it, so unlikely to reach 100kg even with 2 people in/on the bed!
I said it elsewhere, but there are wall studs in that wall. Not a single screw in a single wall stud. Just... why? Argh.
We call them drywall anchors in the US.
There are ways to attach shelves to drywall alone, that can hold quite many kilograms. How were the shelves attached and how much stuff have you put on there?
I’ve also never heard of clothing shelves being referred to as load bearing.
They used cheap plastic drywall anchors, the kind that split into two small "half-rods" (for lack of a better term) when you screw in. The problem is the anchors are plastic and the plastic bends pretty easily, so the load isn't really distributed much at all. If you look at the holes near the bottom of where the shelf was that'll give you an idea of how little they spread out.
As for how much stuff, a handful of boxes with things I access semi-frequently, mostly game controllers, network cables, extension cords, so on. No books or anything. Far less than I've put up in other places I lived at actually. More to the point, far less than what the previous occupant had up there (we helped move out her stuff).
They can be mounted on drywall... with anchors
Yeah, but there are wall studs they could've screwed into right there. Even if they'd done it "properly", why not use the more reliable option?
My parents bought a house a couple years ago, and the previous owners thought it would be okay to put a wall in by screwing 2x4s into the existing drywall of the adjacent walls and putting the sheets up on either side of the 2x4.
They also thought that nobody would notice the fresh paint and fresh plywood used to cover up massive amounts of mold, and when it was discovered after the first day they shrugged and went "oh we had no idea" and a judge believed them.
I discovered the same thing when I moved into my place and started unpacking all of my dishes and glasses into the cabinet above the sink...
This happened to me when I bought my first house. Came home to clothes all over the place due to cheap plastic anchors. So annoying to fix, and a sign of other problems to come. Lazy contractors gonna lazy
Just as an update to this for anyone who cares, in taking out the remains of the shelving I discovered that the position of the crossbeams is adjustable, and they could've been shifted over and screwed into the wall studs. Instead they used more split-style drywall anchors.
That said, it looks like there were some parts screwed into the wall studs: three small hooks made of a different material that finally snapped after however many decades of use. Amazing that only three of them held it up for that long.
I swear, the replacement shelving is going to be so overdesigned....
How much is it gonna be to repair it all now?
No idea, though hopefully not too much. I'm not really worried about the appearance of the wall so it'll mostly come down to what it takes to mount a new shelf and hanger rod. So long as the wall studs are positioned well on the sides I can probably manage that myself.
Wow this looks just like my last apartment
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