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Evidence of Israel's unlawful use of white phosphorus in southern Lebanon as cross-border hostilities escalate (www.amnesty.org)

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The Israeli army fired artillery shells containing white phosphorus, an incendiary weapon, in military operations along Lebanon’s southern border between 10 and 16 October 2023.

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[-] BMatthew@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

And the US and UK give unconditional support.

[-] Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 37 points 1 year ago

I'm ashamed of my country and it only grows for each day that passes.

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[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

I think it also depends on how it’s used. Like if it’s used to create a smokescreen or to light up a battle field, it’s not a war crime. If it’s used as an offensive weapon, especially in an area with civilians, it almost certainly is a war crime since, regardless of whether it’s a chemical weapon, there’s no real way to aim it at military targets without it raining down on civilians. At that point, it becomes a Geneva Conventions violation and every country has ratified the core of the Geneva Conventions.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago

Indeed. And per the above article,

One attack on the town of Dhayra on 16 October must be investigated as a war crime because it was an indiscriminate attack that injured at least nine civilians and damaged civilian objects, and was therefore unlawful

It does sounds like they just fired it at civilian locations to bolster their military actions.

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[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Well gosh what with Russia throwing white phosphorous at Ukraine and no consequence then with Israel also appearing to do so it's as if international law only applies to countries that aren't nuclear states

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Or international politics is a bit complicated.

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[-] mrmule@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Isreal has never acknowledged its nuclear forces, nor are they party to the NPT 🤷‍♂️

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah but nobody's stupid enough to risk it. Even if there's no chance they have nukes, our (US) government is big enough, "Christian" enough, anti-Muslim enough, and bat-shit crazy violent enough to not want to FA&FO.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israeli authorities denied that they used white phosphorus in their military operations in Gaza and Lebanon.

Seems like they're lying. All of that taken together seems like pretty damning evidence that they do use white phosphorous shells.

White phosphorus is not considered a chemical weapon because it operates primarily by heat and flame rather than toxicity, making it an incendiary weapon. Its use is governed by Protocol III of the Convention on Conventional Weapons (CCW). Lebanon acceded to the protocol in 2017, but Israel has not.

Oh. So they're not bound by the treaty not to use it.

[-] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Lebanon is. Israel didn't sign on

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

That certainly makes Lebanon look better than Israel on the subject.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Even better since Lebanon isn't involved here. It's the terrorist organization Hezbollah that is. Since they're terrorists rather than a country, they're not signed on to this either.

[-] UrbonMaximus@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Hezbollah have 15 ministers in parliament and are literally in the caretaker government coalition.

[-] badhops@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

yeah ... but if we place all of the brown people in a open air prison... cut off their water and electricity maybe a bomb or 10000... that will fix the problem

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

If you can't tell the difference between middle eastern locations, maybe you shouldn't be talking about it.

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The fuck you talking about? The article is about Lebanon. You don't even distinguish between countries because they are all the same to you? That's ignorant if not racist.

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[-] kapx132@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

isnt WP against the geneva convention? (they dont give a shit about that convention either way)

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