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[-] BMatthew@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Instead of pushing for a solution, we move nukes??? It’s time to push back on the military industrial complex and get diplomats working.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We can do both.

But note that "nuclear sub" refers to its power system, not armament. Nuclear subs can carry both nuclear and conventional weapons. This is not a threat to nuke Israel or Palestine.

Edit: per articles quoting the Navy dude, this is a guided-missile sub, not a ballistic missile sub, meaning it only carries convention weapons, no nuclear weapons. That is, Tomahawk missiles.

[-] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

From another article I read, this is a nuclear-powered sub, that is one of a handful that has been retrofitted from ballistic middle duty to cruise missles. So basically it’s a cruise missle platform. The headline is playing a little fast and loose for effect.

Also worth considering that subs that launch nukes are assumed to be out, patrolling in enough areas to ensure last-word MAD deterrence, so you can just assume that US nuke-launching subs are already able to strike most major population centers and don’t need or want to broadcast their specific location (unless, like, a very intelligent former president specifically puts their location on a new broadcast for clout)

[-] Triple_B@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

The article is playing fast and loose as well.

The US Navy has dispatched a guided-missile submarine to the Middle East.

The posting was revealed by the military in an announcement late on Sunday. The unusual revelation regarding the location of the ship, which can launch nuclear missiles

SSGNs are incapable of launching the missiles the article is thinking of. I suppose one could outfit the boat with the nuclear TLAM-D, but i doubt the Navy would bother.

And there's no chance in hell an SSBN, the actual sub with SLBMs on it, is going to surface anywhere and pop open a missile hatch (the missiles are launched submerged).

Article is bunk, a GN showed up somewhere and is ready to put tomahawks through windows, business as usual for one of those boats. Show of force? Yes? Show of nuclear warhead force? No.

Sauce - Submariner.

Also sub fun fact, the 4 SSGNs in the US Navy are the Ohio, Michigan, Florida and Georgia. They have a building in Bangor for them, lovingly called the OMFG building.

[-] Clasm@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I concur. SSBN wouldn't risk sailing through the canal without shutting the entire canal down just for security reasons.

[-] wildncrazyguy@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

Speak softly and carry a big stick.

[-] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

It's powered by nuclear, probably not carrying nuclear warheads.

[-] lntl 2 points 10 months ago

the US doesn't have any diesel-electric subs in service they're all nukes

[-] BMatthew@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I understand that but we also know what the trident middle system on that ship can do and what it carries. That single sub out-powers most countries.

[-] Clasm@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's an SSGN. SSBN, the ones that carry Trident missiles, don't need, nor want, to be anywhere near the theatre in order to operate.

[-] Fleur__@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

"we could kill all of you instantly at any time so shut the fuck up and let us do whatever we want"

[-] BMatthew@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

While I understand it is nuclear powered, I also assume it has a full payload. Even if not. The optics after an Israeli minister says there are no civilians and nukes are on the table aren’t good for us to be engaging like this. He may have been suspended, but the rhetorics right now are not acceptable.

https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-minister-amichai-eliyahu-suspend-benjamin-netanyahu-nuclear-bomb-gaza-hamas-war/

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Starting to see the US for what it is, yet?

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
[-] lntl 3 points 10 months ago
[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Ready the crew, it's time to broach!

[-] HowMany@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago

Watch out. trump gave putin all the disable codes hardwired into our hardware. Somewhere there's a russian despot snickering into his handkerchief.

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