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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

After any political debate, it’s customary for news outlets to do some fact-checking, sometimes on the spot. During CNN’s post-debate coverage, anchor Dana Bash caught up with GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy and confronted him with facts.

Ramaswamy had quite a newsworthy night – maybe not the way he would have wanted to be covered or exactly the way he wanted to be covered, with many fiery moments while he was on the debate stage. Bash, who dove right in with “Where do I even start?” started by asking Ramaswamy about why he attacked everyone including the Republican National Committee and NBC, which aired the debate that gave him a lot of camera time. He responded with his frustration with his party and then launched into the fantastical theory that President Joe Biden was not going to be the Democratic candidate in 2024:

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[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 89 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

She didn't "shut him down". She tried to get in a point across and he barged right on along unimpeded by her and continued peddling more bullshit and conspiracy theory.

The truth means absolutely nothing to a conservative. Evidence means nothing when you never cared about reality in the first place.

[-] bus_go_fast@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

The truth means absolutely nothing to a conservative.

When someone tells me they are a conservative, I always ask "what does that mean? Does that mean you lie all the time? You cheat on your wife? You're a bigot?"

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Scratch most of today's conservatives, and it's just racism and fascism and a whole lot of anger.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

She also missed the slam dunk counter that we have proof of Biden tax returns for many years online

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Annoys me that their supporters use fake as a synonym for wrong. Anything at all that is wrong is now fake. That clock isn’t wrong it’s showing fake time. They’ve literally turned people into right-wing zombies.

[-] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago

This man's entire tactic is just saying dumb shit for attention. Trump is his mentor

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 25 points 9 months ago

Yeah, except I feel like he's a standard deviation further beyond even MAGA and Trump. He's the guy in the room with casual conspiracy people who starts racing about how the moon is a holographic projection. He's an unironic parody of the entire MAGA movement, and I know a few MAGAs who like him and think he's smart*, but not enough to pick him over Trump.

*Basically, if you can talk faster than they can think. Ramaswamy has a very Ben Shapiro gish-gallop style of just saying bullshit way faster than anyone can deal with it. To somebody who's already MAGA, it sounds "truthy", so a lot of it just slides right past any filters. To somebody who's not MAGA, though, building a second, even stupider wall between us and Canada was an "Oh, wait, you're serious, let me laugh harder" moment.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

People said the same thing about trump on 2016 when he got on the "vaccines cause autism" train. This isn't some outlier, it's exactly where the base is.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Fair enough

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Beat me to it. I was going to compare this dipshit to Shapiro - he seems to be intentionally lifting his style. Shapiro is a stupid person's idea of a smart person because he just firehoses out a bunch of bullshit so fast that it's hard to keep up. And of course, the Gish Gallop is something so many conspiracy theorists/conservatives do all the time, because they just love their logical fallacies and making a mockery of real debate and intellectual pursuits.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

True. Vivek says so many out there things.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 56 points 9 months ago

His entire tactic is to do the Ramble-swamble, string together a bunch of incoherent, misleading, vague, and wrong statements together and shoe horn "Biden is bad" in there. Conservatives would fawn over him if they could get over the racism.

[-] zib@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago

I always called that the Shapiro technique, but Ramble-swamble is so much better.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What a disgusting man.

"I'm just calling out corruption in the democratic party!" "There is no evidence" "No, but if there were, I'm calling it out"

So you're basically full of shit, but all his followers hear is he's calling out corruption in the democratic party.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 15 points 9 months ago

I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false, is guilty of falsehood; and the accidental truth of the assertion, does not justify or excuse him.

—Abraham Lincoln

[-] bus_go_fast@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Conservatism is saying dumb outrageous shit and lying.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

And constantly trying to punch down in the most harmful way possible, and of course, to "own the libs".

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