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Enabling Bluetooth on Arch Linux (itsfoss.com)
submitted 7 months ago by petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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[-] x3i@lemmy.x3i.tech 50 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is one of the reasons why I am very unsure about the whole archinstall thing. On the one hand, it lowers the barrier of entry for less techy people, which is always good. On the other hand, it allows for installing the OS without ever having to use the archwiki, which leads to people making a blog post like this that could be solved by looking for "bluetooth" in the archwiki and following the instructions. To somebody not familiar with the OS, this makes it seem like arch is much more complicated than it actually is. "To run arch, you have to hope that there is a blog post or youtube video for simple things like bluetooth!"

No, you simply go here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Also very useful resource if you are on any other distro btw)

[-] Synthead@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

To run arch, you have to hope that there is a blog post or youtube video for simple things like bluetooth!

Or know what systemd is

[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 10 points 7 months ago

Systemd is amazing. Every user should at least know the basics.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

What on Earth for. I don't think I've used it more than a couple of times over the last 5 years, and that was for arcane stuff like enabling rc.local (which is something every user should probably not know about...)

[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 7 months ago

Plex, CUPS (printing services), Minecraft servers, VPN, file sharing, DHCP/DNS/Wifi, bluetooth are some examples of basic level things systemd can help regular users manage.

Systemd goes far beyond that too.

[-] sederx@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

scheduling processes, enabling services, debug services and a shit load of other things that advanced users need.

[-] Synthead@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

A whole article for starting bluetooth from systemctl?

[-] moreeni@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

itsfoss.com is awful

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 0 points 7 months ago

Why doesn't it start automatically anyway?

[-] Synthead@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It's against the philosophy of Arch. You configure your system the way you want.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

So, like, you have to manually enable every service you install?

[-] Synthead@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, always.

  • Maybe you want to migrate a PostgreSQL database to a newer version without starting PostgreSQL server.
  • Maybe you installed OpenSSH but don't want sshd to run yet, because you haven't hardened the configs.
  • Maybe you installed Nginx as a part of a migration from Apache httpd, but httpd is already running.

In addition, Arch hardly configures your system in a custom way, too. When you install a package, most of the time, it responds with "here are the files from the developer that you asked for."

If you don't like this philosophy, then your feelings are perfectly valid, and this is a textbook example of why different distributions exist 👍

[-] sederx@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

Why would it?

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

Because if I install bluetooth it's because I have some bluetooth devices I want to use?...

[-] sederx@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

Not necessarily at all times.

[-] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

systemctl enable bluetooth.service
Next time just RTFM

[-] madmaurice@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

author: has Master's degree in engineering

also author: "Let's write a blog post about how to enable a systemd service"

[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Maybe he was Windows user and only got to know the depth of how to create a Object Oriented Class efficiently or smth.

But basic stufd like, using the terminal or smth, nah.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago

Meanwhile, Linux Mint users have it on by default.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

mint and arch aren't made for the same people. Not everyone wants it on by default

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Out of curiosity, what's the point of installing Bluetooth but keeping it disabled?

I imagine the opposite would be the default most people wanted (enable it by default and let power users with a bizarre use case disable it manually).

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

because arch is a minimal distro and some people see the processing power used for bt to be wasted

[-] sederx@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

Because it's a security risk but you might need it sometimes.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago

Arch users are so weird.

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