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[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

I do not recognize the authority of a court that hangs the gold-fringed flag. A flag with gilded edges is the flag of an Admiralty court. An Admiralty court signifies a Naval court-martial. I cannot be court-martialed twice. That is all. Furthermore...

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

Aside from the hypocrisy and silliness, the one thing I really don’t get about sovereign citizens is that they don’t see how America treats the peoples that were here first.

[-] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

It's probably all just a convenient excuse to ignore laws, or a feeble attempt to ignore them at least.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Anyone who considers the sovereign citizen bullshit to be a defense in an insurrection case should consider that they're placing themselves in a position to be treated as a foreign combatant.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A January 6 rioter who represented himself using “sovereign citizen” arguments – which a judge called “bullshit” and “gobbledegook” – was found guilty on Tuesday.

On 6 January 2021, Donald Trump sent supporters to Congress to try to stop certification of his defeat by Joe Biden, telling them to “fight like hell” in his cause.

In court last week, Johnatakis mounted his own defence, attempting to cite “sovereign citizen” ideology.

As defined by the Anti-Defamation League, sovereign citizens form “an extreme anti-government movement whose members believe the government has no authority over them”.

Johnatakis also said he had “repented all [his] sins” and the case should be “discharged”, but the judge, Royce C Lamberth, was not buying.

Telling Johnatakis his arguments were “bullshit” and “gobbledegook”, Lamberth said: “When they find you guilty, you’re going to jail.


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