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It obviously is but I'm having trouble finding good sources to argue this point. Especially statements of intent seem hard to find.

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[-] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The problem is international law is a contradiction https://criticalresist.substack.com/p/the-limits-of-international-law

I think it creates a much stronger argument if we decide to abandon international law because it has clearly not lived up to what it should be, and instead speak from humanitarian reasoning.

I realized I don't actually know too many people that actually care about international law. It's an appeal to authority which is already a fallacy, but the situations I see play out IRL is people that support Israel will say it's not genocide and people that support Palestine will say it is.

Personally I've chosen to remove myself from the trap that is international law; it's impossible to explain why this bombing campaign is genocide simply through it. Liberal law can only judge individual acts, it can't judge context or abstract (non tangible) acts. To explain why this bombing is genocide, we have to go back to the roots of Israel and what it was founded on.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago

Genocide is the act of killing or destroying, as a whole or as a part, ethnic, racial, religious or national groups of people through killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group.

Israel is 1) forcing members of the group (Palestinians) to move away from their own territory without concern about where they will end up, 2) killing them indiscriminately, 3) cutting of their resources indiscriminately leading to people dying.

The hard part of legally proving genocide is often the intent to destroy a group of people. Israel is circumventing this by saying they are 'trying to target Gaza' instead of indiscriminately killing everything that moves.

[-] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 months ago

It is not genocide it is part of a genocide.

It is a war crime/crime against humanity to intentionally kill civilians, bomb hospitals, cut off water, power, electricity, internet to prevent information flow of the crimes.

The genocide itself can be established through land theft, putting people in open air concentration camps/ghettos which they cannot leave and which have restricted entry to outsiders, arbitrary detention, shooting children with snipers, derogatory fascist rhetoric including with genocidal intent by the occupying zionists, and the whole system of apartheid which various international organizations have recognized or toed up to the line of recognizing but veered away for no logical reason.

[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Israel's entire history is one of eviction and genocide of its indigenous inhabitants, its founders are explicit about that. This vid is a good place to get started:

How Palestine became Colonized

Another good vid from modern Israeli citizens, most of them feeling that Palestinians need to be exterminated:

Israelis Speak Candidly about Palestine

[-] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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