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Definitely remove them until they can federate properly.
why? I understood it was just a temporary thing, not permanent.
Everyone is going through some growing pains right now, why not be gracious and let things progress as they need to? Or do you know something I don't?
I was not implying to permanently remove them. I did indeed mean to remove them while they're defederated. They said they can't handle the influx of users with only 4 admins.
Obviously they would be readded when they refederated.
why?
To spare the users of the 2 affected instances the crappy UX of asymmetric federation.
Do you know when they plan to refederate?
I do not, unfortunately
If the defederation is open ended, it seems pretty reasonable to delist them until it's sorted. They've cut themselves off from more than 30% of the active Lemmy userbase, and are at the center of what's about to become a monumental storm of confusion around asymmetrical federation. There's no need to subject more people to that than is necessary.
It's not just beehaw. Here you can see a list of instances with how many they have defederated (3rd column from right, 'BI'). A few others have more than 380 defederations, too.
Also, isn't that just what the de/federation system does? Instances can decide on their own, we don't have to agree as a whole. Who owns 'lemmy proper' to make the call which instances are displayed on join-lemmy.org or removed from it?
But what definitely should be removed is this line:
You can access all content in the lemmyverse from any server/instance.
That's simply not true, and creates false expectations. Either change that line or only show instances with 0 defederations.
Thanks for the link with the defererated table. I'll make sure to pass that along to the next person looking for a new server.
While I agree with you, beehaw is the only big community blocking so many instances. The other 2 are just a handful of subscribers
I think you hit the key with removing the sentence, it's just that beehaw made it very obvious at a time it got a ton of attention.
If beehaw wants a smaller very strictly moderated community it shouldn't be offered as a point of access to the rest of the fediverse, specially now that a bunch of new people don't know much about lemming and may feel deceived
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