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[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 118 points 9 months ago

He might’ve been more interested in some antibiotics for syphillis lmao

[-] Jimbo@yiffit.net 23 points 9 months ago

Should probably grab some dentures for Washington

Oh and get him to tell Washington not to let doctors drain half his blood too

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Lol all the sex jokes, this one hits.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 5 points 9 months ago

Not really a joke, though. Back in the old days Syphilis was an untreatable disease causing rampant infertility as well as disfigurement and debilitating pain.

[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 63 points 9 months ago

Guys, they’d be overjoyed their government the hammered out in overnight binge drinking sessions lasted 200+ years.

All the present problems are our problems. They gave us the amendment system for a reason.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

Not universally. Jefferson would have been horrified that the same government he established was still trucking along. 50 years was the longest he wanted it to last, and called for dramatic change at that point

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

They also wrote that system not expecting it to be able to be gummed up by as little as 2% of the population because of how stupid we were about drawing state borders

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[-] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 50 points 9 months ago

Benny would be too distracted with Tinder to give a shit about McChickens

[-] flicker@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago

Only if there are GILFs on Tinder.

[-] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure Ben Franklin is rated E for everyone

[-] flicker@kbin.social 19 points 9 months ago

I agree of course but he did prefer his Congress to have experience.

[-] Auzymundius@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I've never seen this. Thank you so much.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Oh they got plenty of GILFs on the other sites! Dated some bangers and just married one last Friday!

LOL, she's 52, so we'll see what happens in 8 years.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago

Not sure many of them would see an issue with AR-15s. They're basically what the military has and what the civilians had back then was usually better than military grade. In fact, American civilians have always had better rifles than their contemporary military.

I loathe the title, and strongly disagree with it. Also, heard the presenter is a hard right-winger, but this is still an interesting history lesson. I never would have guessed most of this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dIsy3sZI2Y&t=2s

I'm betting the founders would have thought having a lesser armed citizenry to be pointless. Of course, they might well have thought that such a giant, world policing, military to be a far worse mistake.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

I mean, it’s super hypothetical. We lift them up but they were just a bunch of dudes living in their own times. While I’m sure they wanted a framework that would lead the country into future prosperity, they knew adaptation was necessary.

They also knew that the backbone of this country's defense were militias made up of citizens. We don’t really have those. I’m all for regulated militias coming back. They could possibly get exceptions for many banned weapons.

Every citizen doesn’t need to have access to military grade weaponry at any given moment. Even when I served, my shit was locked up and required a document trail for access and ammo use.

Balancing safety and personal rights is a complex and divisive issue. Everyone having all the guns would be super cool with me if we fixed gun culture, mental health access, and our many many societal financial issues. 'Til then, reasonable laws.

[-] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

We are a well regulated militia. Well regulated means well equipped/prepared.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

[-] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

That's all it means? Because it seems fairly clear that it means something like "well organized, supplied, and trained." If we're saying that the word "regulated" just means "armed", and the word "militia" just means "people", then it sounds a lot like you're interpreting it to mean what you want it to.

I've never heard "regulated" used that way outside of tortured 2nd amendment interpretations, and a militia requires some amount of training and regular drills.

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[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I have a feeling the conversation to have with most of the founders would be centered around the political weaponization of the Second Amendment in the face of almost daily mass shootings. I have a strong suspicion that the "well-regulated militia" part of that amendment would become much more pronounced.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

They would be far more concerned with the government embracing fascism, than they would about 2nd amendment considerations. If anything, they'd push for a less restrictive 2nd amendment, and dismantling of federal power structures. They were revolutionaries, after all.

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[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

I really doubt it. If they intended the right to belong to militias or members of one, they would have written that instead of people.

[-] leviathan3k@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Plus there are a lot of people in the militia. Specifically every able-bodied male from the ages of 17 to 45.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title10/subtitleA/part1/chapter12&edition=prelim

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[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Well you see brown people were using it to feel good...

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[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 41 points 9 months ago

They would likely be most upset you can't make your own liquor legally.

[-] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 24 points 9 months ago

You can, just can't sell it (at least in my state which is one of the stricter ones for alcohol)

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Federal law strictly prohibits distilling at home.

Offenses under this section are felonies that are punishable by up to 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $10,000, or both, for each offense.

Edit: can we just talk for a second about how oppressive the law is for poor people? Do you have $10,000? Cool, give it to us and go home. Oh, you don't have it? FIVE YEARS in a federal penetentary!

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[-] verstra@programming.dev 35 points 9 months ago

And overwhelmed by the number of people willing to discuss nuaced socio-political problems of states and governments.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago

He would be very upset that most of these people are neither white nor land-owners.

[-] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago

Franklin? He would probably just be amazed there are openly Bi people and would just embrace power of infinite flirting. That and the McNuggins.

[-] AnotherOne@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

From everything i've heard of the founding fathers franklin seems like the only descent one.

[-] OmenAtom@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

None of them were perfect, and some of them had there beyond fucked up moments by todays standards, but for their time they were mostly a pretty alright bunch

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

Thomas Paine is cooler imo. A lot more progressive than many of the other founding fathers

Adam's refused to own slaves on principle. Dude was solid

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not really. He could be a miserable bastard at times but all the sources agree he was very open minded and willing to accept the evidence of his eyes and honest arguments, condemning colonist atrocities against natives despite have quite a lot prejudice against them himself, freeing his own slaves, petitioning for abolition in Congress, etc.

He'd look around, say, "Well it seems to have worked out, where's the whorehouses?"

No. His great failing was championing the concept of time-based workdays instead of task-based. Ie, most people left work when everything was done before he got involved.

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[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

"Tell me more about this 'online granny porn' my good sir."

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 9 months ago

A few of our founding fathers were based and are remembered for their true merits as people.

And the rest were just the most rich and powerful people around at the time. They had to start a war and a new country in order to get away with defrauding England when they joined in on this settler colonial project. They stopped slavery from ending. They chased wealth and valor, and designed the country for their ends.

WE deserve a new constitution like every other modern country.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 6 points 9 months ago

Their project was in part to legitimize the transfer of power from the nobility to the elite merchant and "gentleman" farmer class. They were very much a product of their time, just like you and I are today.

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[-] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 9 months ago
[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

"But I want mcchickeeeeeeens"

[-] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

This has a Bill & Ted-vibe. Like Napoleon who just wants to go back on the waterslides again...

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[-] oo1@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago

Wasn't that already more or less proven by bill and ted?

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Such a good documentary.

[-] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago

Everything in moderation

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Image Transcription: Twitter Post


shen the bird, @Shen_the_Bird

me: [after successfully using my time machine to bring a founding father to the present] so do you think the 2nd ammendment is still reflective of our culture and technology

benjamin franklin: can we go get more mcchickens

me: no stop asking me that

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

At least you did not bring him back to McRib season

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