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Republicans will never stop trying to steal elections
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And thumpingly demand more overreach in the name of fraud while being the huxters of the fraud. This nations needs consequences for it's rich.
CNN editors failing to hold fascists accountable yet again with that awful headline! It wasn't a fucking DELAY, it was a blatant attempt to subvert and bypass the will of the people!
They do it to avoid a libel lawsuit.
The absolute defense against libel/slander is believing what you write/say.
"We believed they were seditious".
Done
Yup, was gonna say that. Pretty sure most mainstream media are overzealous with the "alleged" and "supposed" and so on not because they think they risk lawsuits.
In cases where what they're saying is obviously true and/or they can credibly argue sincerity, as you mention, any such suit would be defeated by anti-SLAPP laws in most states and be dismissed as a waste of time by 90%+ of judges in the rest. The remaining cases would show the judge as well as the plaintiff to be clearly biased against the truth, which is better publicity than any media org could buy.
Rather, they're being obsequious in an effort to preserve the illusion of having no bias and/or otherwise cowardly neglecting their journalistic duty of honesty and truthfulness in favor of expediency and peace of mind.
They could learn a lot from this Rolling Stone article: 
They’re at it again, they refused to certify the results even when faced with a court order. If this is defeated that will set a horrible precedent that states can just refuse to certify if they don’t like the results. Crosby’s lawer is just talking g out his ass when he says there’s no basis for this. Hit those asshats with the felony charge they deserve.
We need swift punishment when they refuse a court order. I'm pretty sure that's easy to prove and wouldn't need a drawn out trial.
Why can’t we just call it attempted treason?
What’s ‘attempted’ about it. Treason is treason whether they’re successful or not.
Good point.
Because it’s sedition, not treason. Just as bad, if not worse, but a different thing.
So why can't we call it that?
We absolutely should!
What Is Treason, and What Are The Penalties For Treasonous Acts? Treason is the willful act by citizens of a country levying war against any government or providing aid and comfort to their enemies. This crime is extreme in the United States, and the law will deal with anyone convicted of such. Treason is also one of the only crimes written in the constitution. In times past, some persons have been charged with treason, but these cases are uncommon.
The penalties for treasonous acts could be death or spending time behind bars for not less than five years and would be considered an enemy to the country. Any person convicted of treason can also be fined no less than $10,000 and cannot have any office under the United States government.
What Is Sedition And What Are The Penalties For Seditious Acts? Sedition is the act of a person forcefully trying to overthrow, take down, hinder, or delay the government or its laws by doing so through words or speech. Like treason, someone found guilty of this crime would face terrible judgments.
The person or persons convicted of sedition can face up to 20 years behind bars or can be fined the amount of $10,000.
https://thelawdictionary.org/article/treason-vs-sedition/
TLDR: it could just be the wrong charge and you'd have better luck with a sedition charge.
Why is it a thing for US legislatures to certify elections anyway? You'd think there would be an independent commission that runs the election. Is this a thing around the world?
Is this that voter fraud the right keeps screaming about?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Cochise County Supervisors Peggy Judd, 61, and Tom Crosby, 64, each were charged with two felonies: interference with an election officer and conspiracy, according to the indictment.
“The repeated attempts to undermine our democracy are unacceptable,” Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes, a Democrat, said in a statement Wednesday, announcing the indictment.
In an email, Dennis Wilenchik, an attorney representing Crosby, called the indictment “the product of nothing but political partisanship” and said he intended to “vigorously defend” his client.
At the time, the secretary of state’s office countered that the machines had been tested and certified and argued that the recalcitrant board members were advancing debunked conspiracy theories.
In early December 2022 – several days after Cochise County’s legal deadline to do so – Judd and the board’s sole Democrat voted to certify the general election results, following a court order.
Last year, public meetings in Cochise County – a Republican stronghold in southeastern Arizona – saw loud and frequent demands that local officials wield their largely ministerial certification functions to upend elections.
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