Cool, if we’re doing votes and democracy, I vote we remove Spez.
Isn’t that how it works?
Cool, if we’re doing votes and democracy, I vote we remove Spez.
Isn’t that how it works?
It's amazing that they have had years of people complaining about mods and it's always been "if you don't like the moderation policy of a community, you can find one that better suits your tastes" but when it impacts them suddenly there is a need for a policy change and democracy.
Rules for thee but not for me.
It's god damn everywhere these days
"democracy" lol spaz manipulates everything, there's no way these votes are counted impartially.
It's like having a "Is Elmo the greatest man in history?" poll on twitter these days.
I wonder if they will in the future make Reddit even more democratic by allowing users to vote out Reddit admins, and even the CEO?
It's gonna be funny if users vote in favor of the protest and against pro-spez mods.
Maybe he will start editing other people's votes too!
They'll move the goalposts again if that happens, just like elon did with his "stepping down" poll. It's a "heads I win, tails this game doesn't count" situation.
That's what happened with musky husky, but it'd be very in character for spez to change the actual results to his liking lol
Nothing a couple of bots can't fix.
Allowing moderators to be voted out? That's just like in my favourite game "Among Us"
Nice sub you got there .
What could possibly go wrong ?
Nothing will go wrong. It will absolutely not be completely fucking hilarious. I'm definitely not bulk ordering popcorn for when it happens.
I’m calling it: r/subredditdrama will be the funniest place on the internet before it too implodes into its own anus.
Can’t wait to see this spectacle.
im so gonna create bot accounts if this goes through
I doubt votes wouldn't be manipulated by reddit anyway.
I would imagine they'd only count votes from premium accounts. It [partially] avoids the bot issue while making them money off votes.
If someone attempts to manipulate it by paying for premium for said bots, then that's just extra money for them.
I see he also mentions revenue sharing and running subreddits as a business.
Users being paid for the content they create sounds nice conceptually, but I would fully expect whatever implementation Reddit comes up with to be a disaster. Once money is involved on large platforms you see every crypto / nft / hustle-culture bro in a twenty mile radius show up trying to make a quick buck off of their latest scam, and a general appeal to whatever is the lowest common denominator that can be easily pumped out.
I'm fully expecting that to either be a disaster, or more likely to not even happen in the first place given that a lot of CEO interview talk is hot air.
Monetization is cool until one remembers this is never a meritocracy and the money will go to the people with the best business plan, not the best content
Bots voting out the humans.
Rule 1: remember the robot
Rule 2: embrace the robot
They've waited a long time to profit from our conversations online for a long time. I mean back in the day reddit didn't host any content directly until self posts were created. For images and videos you'd always link to YouTube or giffy. Reddit ran quite cheaply and effeciently.
First Reddit wanted to own the content which is starting offering to host images and videos inside it's product and now they're about to paywall it off and wrap it in adverts for their own client. It's about taking your content and owning it in the sense they can charge for it and it's taken a few steps to realise this.
Whether kbin or lemmy or any alternative survives, people should always prefer the approach of keeping content platform netural. Outside of individual forums and walled gardens. Host things outside of slack, outside of Reddit, outside of Facebook so that it's open to the whole internet and for new platforms in the future.
Reddit users who want to continue to enjoy Reddit communities should still try and host outside the platform for the benefit of others.
Here here. Its about time we took back our content. Corporate ghouls has the shidas touch. Anything they touch turns to shit.
Reddit is frequented by many IT guys (no gender implied).
Reddit is angering the IT guys.
Reddit doesn't seem to know they your NEVER mess with the IT guy.
This cannot possibly end well. Beyond its likely initial purpose of ending the protest, how does it work after that? There's only so far you can go with stopping bots from voting moderators out and taking over subreddits. Even if you somehow get rid of all the bots, it's not that difficult for a coordinated group to take over a subreddit, especially smaller ones.
This seems like shooting from the hip.
Let's be real.
Reddits IPO is dependent on inflated bot numbers. Bots aren't a problem, they're the future.
Nice sub you got there, would be a shame if someone just took it over.
WAIT!!!! Spez IS a Reddit moderator, literally his userpage says "moderation", can you vote him out?
and the voting results will of course be transparent and truthful
How would that even work? You can't see which mod or AEO monkey is responsible for mod abuse. And you probably can't vote out spez either.
There's just something about COVID that seems to make all tech companies go from questionable to full-on evil.
Isn't this just a Motte and Bailey
Completely ignoring the real issue in favor of "the silent majority"
The Snoo Platform's playbook is now provocation...
Snoo likes its chaotic platform.
This could ruin every controversial sub on the site
Anyone shorting Reddit stock the moment they do their IPO? I would if I could lol
At this rate their IPO might go so poorly that there's not much to short
Someone will buy Reddit, doesn't they'll care about the company. People buy companies to kill them off. The stock market is not a rational creature.
Given that the Reddit community is known for that whole GameStop debaucle, it's certainly far from impossible...
A far dated put maybe
Let's see what a rating a cesspool gets on Wall Street, because this is how you make the remains of Reddit one
If someone from r/dataisbeautiful is on here, could you make a graph of the subs and their subscriber numbers which took part in the blackout? We could start some useful deduction from that.
Here's subs that took part in the blackout, but the subscriber counts are grouped together into 40m+, 30m+... down to 1k and below. It's not exact and the numbers have likely changed since, but it's a starting point.
Thanks, man.
I've not been keeping up with Reddit, bit what is the general mood from users?
I remember seeing some threads announcing blackouts getting tons of comments saying that it won't help and the blackout should be longer. Not to mention the movement of people wanting to torch their comments.
Is there any truth to them saying that this is only a minority of angry power tripping mods? Like, this seems a very odd move for Reddit to make unless they were super out of touch.
Apparently Reddit has been restoring deleted comments, since they technically own them. Not sure if that's true though; just saw it mentioned somewhere today.
Edit - minutes later, front page of kbin, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/34112/Heads-up-Reddit-is-quietly-restoring-deleted-AND-overwritten-posts-and
The majority of users don't even know about 3rd party apps and probably are just inconvenienced that their subs are private.
Reddit management also wants to make it seem like it's "a minority of angry power tripping mods" so they can shift the blame and make the protest lose credibility
More and more users seems to get angry towards the mods of closed subreddits from what I saw in the last 2 days. People are selfish.. :/
this will surely sit well with the already pissed off community
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