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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/health@lemmy.world

Pediatricians are hesitating to prescribe medicines like Wegovy, citing their newness and uncertainties around them.

Dr. Edward Lewis, a pediatrician in Rochester, N.Y., has seen hundreds of children with obesity over the years in his medical practice. He finally may have a treatment for their medical condition — the powerful weight loss drug Wegovy.

But that does not mean Dr. Lewis is prescribing it. Nor are most other pediatricians.

“I am reluctant to prescribe medications we don’t use on a day-to-day basis,” Dr. Lewis said. And, he added, he is disinclined to use “a medicine that is a relative newcomer to the scene in kids.”

Regulators and medical groups have all said that these drugs are appropriate for children as young as 12. But like Dr. Lewis, many pediatricians hesitate to prescribe Wegovy to young people, fearful that too little is known about long term effects, and mindful of past cases when problems emerged years after a drug was approved.

Twenty-two percent of adolescents age 12 to 19 have obesity. Research shows that most are unlikely to ever overcome the condition — advice to diet and exercise usually has not helped. The reason, obesity researchers say, is that obesity is not caused by a lack of will power. Instead, it is a chronic disease characterized by an overwhelming desire to eat.

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[-] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 30 points 9 months ago

Or… the shitty “food” industry could be radically reformed to stop monopolising the market with super-high sugar sources.

[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Lack of weight loss drugs is not the cause of teenage obesity, therefore the solution to teenage obesity is not the addition of drugs.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I like what you're saying, but that logic doesn't hold rocks.

Lack of chemo is not the cause of cancer, therefore the solution to cancer is not chemo? Chemo is definitely a solution to cancer, shitty as it is.

[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Treatment and even cures are not solutions. The solution to elevated cancer rates is to reduce carcinogen exposure.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

That's a fair semantic point.

No, the solution to cancer is fixing our genes so that it's not possible. The same goes with obesity. Back when food was scarce, people who store fats better thrived and we evolved that way.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 2 points 9 months ago

No syllogism is complete without Newt’s Knife.

[-] CharadeYouAreNot@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

Drugs. The American answer for everything. Unhappy, just take drugs. Tired, more drugs. Side effects from those drugs, we have a drug for that! Instead of fixing the underlying problem let’s keep putting bandaids on the problem until we look like the Michelin Man.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Hey! I like drugs!

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 10 points 9 months ago

so the options are teach your kids good habits or... give them drugs? And this is framed as the pediatrician's fault for not doing it?

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

Last time I remember a bunch of doctors were told a new drug was safe, we had that whole Oxy drug epidemic. I wouldn't expect doctors to just believe in these "studies" as much as they did before.

But yeah just teach diet/nutrition, exercise, and sleep. That helped solve some problems with me and I'm not on daily "maintenance" medication anymore.

[-] oDDmON@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Is no one admitting these are lifelong maintenance drugs, while also ignoring compliance issues with a young age bracket?

Also, studies show discontinuance of the medication results in at least 2/3 of the lost weight being regained. How will that look in these cases?

Quit rushing to stab junk in your leg , so you can keep cramming crap in your piehole.

[-] CrackaAssCracka@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

What about the 19yo I saw today, with a BMI of 62, who's so far stuck in the cycle of self loathing, inactivity, depression, and pleasure seeking behavior that he can't see a way out let alone start creating himself a new reality? What if I have a drug that I'm pretty confident can help him lose 200lbs? Is it ethical for me to not prescribe it because "he should be able to do it on his own?" How many people do you know who have done that? Out of the hundreds or horribly obese patients I've seems, I have tow that have done it with diet and exercise. We have not evolved for a world where 20,000 calories costs $20 and is available 24/7.

I agree we need to be cautious with these drugs since long-term adverse effects aren't known but the long-term effects of obesity are well documented. I have backed off on pitching these drugs since I learned the companies making them have infiltrated the obesity research community in the US (because of course they did). They're still an amazing tool in the fight against an obesity epidemic which has many, many different contributing factors li ok e trauma, depression, mental health issues, upbringing, genetics, etc, etc. it's not as easy as "just don't eat so much."

[-] Genmjrpain@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Nobody "gets" teenagers. Duh!

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml -3 points 9 months ago

You know what else fixes teenage obesity? Not over-eating and getting regular exercise.

[-] Gnelfo@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Education for parents on how not to ruin their children's health, Education for children on the effects of diet in schools.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Also being both outside the US!

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