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[-] 0x815@feddit.de 41 points 6 months ago

European Commission unfreezes billions in funds for ~~Hungary~~ Orban and friends.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

All my adult life I have been living under the rule of Orban, more than a decade now. Your hope decreases year by year, as he always wins his most important domestic and international political battles against all odds. It’s incredibly exhausting.

Now I live in western EU, because I gave up on the hope that Hungary will ever change. Yet my tax money will still continue to fund the infinite apetite of him and his friends.

At least I hope the EC didn’t become his bitch (again) for free, and Ukraine will get the needed funds.

[-] WallEx@feddit.de 24 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that's what we need, more Nazis with money and power.

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

When you throw the word nazi around in an unfounded manner like this, it loses its meaning completely and whatever you tried saying loses all credibility. I'm not a fan of Orban, he is a corrupt authoritarian, but most definitely not a nazi.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago

Bro makes every election about opposing Soros and the Great Replacement, he's a fucking Nazi.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He makes every election about the topics that will make him win. He’s an opportunistic psychopath without any ideology, not a nazi.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

"He's not a Nazi! He just talks and acts like them because he thinks it polls well to be a Nazi!"

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not really, the nazis vote for a different Hungarian party (“Mi Hazánk” meaning “Our Home”) that is now also in the parliament

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

There can be more than one Nazi party. In german we have AfD, der Dritte Weg, NPD, freie Wähler and probably others I forgot. They are only differentiated by what horrors they want to commit against which foreigners and on whether they say the holocause didnt happen, wasnt that bad, should not be spoken about anymore or was a good thing.

[-] steakmeout@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

This is such Reddit mindlessness.

Dr. Jens Foell tweeted "As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis."

And that’s the truth. I don’t care that Orban is an opportunist, I care that he finds opportunity in the company of fascists and nazis. By proxy that makes him a nazi.

[-] WallEx@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago

If he works with Nazis and uses their rhetoric and also acts against foreigners, why do you think he is not a nazi?

[-] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

But that's the most important thing, right? Using the exact right definition for you has more weight when he's like 7/10 on any checklist and you can literally see him getting hard on nazi shit. Oh we can't possibly misname a cunt, that's not fair to.. cunts? What the fuck do you want?

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I agree. He's an opportunist and will not shy away from rhetoric that brings him power but he isn't actually a nazi.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Agree. So many slurs I could rightfully throw at him, nazi is not one of them. It’s important to be clear with these terminologies, or they will be emptied out and cast aside. There are actual nazis in the Hungarian parlament, but they are a different party (“Mi Hazánk”, meaning “Our Home”)

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 23 points 6 months ago

Frog: “If I give you a lift across the river, you won’t sting me, will you?”

Scorpion: “I will, because that’s my nature.”

Frog: “I’ll pretend I didn’t hear that. Get on.”

[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 8 points 6 months ago
[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 12 points 6 months ago

Obviously blackmailing the EU on the Ukraine aid has been successful. 🤬

[-] CJOtheReal@ani.social 6 points 6 months ago

Just build a bridge over the shithole.

[-] firecat@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago

You mean the billions that could have feed people, help solve immigration issues, war with Russia or issues with Israel. That billions that people trusted EU to do the right thing to only be used in the most meaningless way?!?!?

[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 6 points 6 months ago

This unveils the real nature of our "democratic" institutions: whoever enforces control over people and guarantees stability (no matter at what cost) takes it all. I see no difference between this and other autocracies the media despise so much these days. We're all in the same boat. Sinking boat.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


EU Justice Commissioner Didier Reynders said on Wednesday, however, that recent judicial reforms are in "full compliance ... with the requirements we had agreed on," adding: "We have received sufficient guarantees to say that independence of the judiciary will be strengthened in Hungary."

Additional EU funds totaling almost €12 billion and further billions in COVID-19 recovery aid remain blocked because breaches "in the areas of public procurement, prosecutorial action, conflict of interest, the fight against corruption and public interest trusts" were not addressed, according to a Commission press release.

Whether the release of at least some of the locked funds will lead the Hungarian prime minister to reconsider his threat to veto any decisions on Ukraine, remains to be seen.

Starting accession talks does not guarantee membership, but it is considered a highly symbolic step that is generally followed by detailed and potentially open-ended negotiations that can last decades.

Arriving in Brussels for the summit, new Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk appeared to attempt to soothe relations by calling Orban a "very pragmatic politician" and said he would seek to find a way to win him over.

In an apparent rebuke to Hungary, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz called earlier for more decision-making by a qualified majority in the EU to prevent single nations from having a veto on issues such as accession.


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