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Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net"

If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net".

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[-] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 272 points 10 months ago

Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.

I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.

[-] guriinii@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago

Israel have been successfully pressuring meta to remove and shadow ban accounts sympathetic to Palestinians. The level of censorship is crazy.

[-] raoulraoul@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago

OK, I'll bite. You got something more substantial than "I read it on the internet" to back that up? One reputable source on your accusation? Not sayin' you're lying/wrong, just asking for some verifiable proof.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Numerous actual popular accounts and news sources have been suspended. It was major news in the Arabic-speaking world in October. Meta even apologized for auto-translating Palestinian as “terrorist.”

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[-] snek@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

If they want to hang out with us, they can make an account somewhere other than thread, bam, done!

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 125 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

lemm.ee already made the decision, based off of the voice of the community to defederate from Threads

[-] Jack@lemmy.ca 40 points 10 months ago

Lemmy.Ca admins blocked Threads about 5 months ago: https://lemmy.ca/comment/901551

You can confirm that Threads dot net is still blocked by Lemmy.Ca by going to https://lemmy.ca/instances and clicking on the "Blocked Instances" tab.

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[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 105 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

please take a look at the replies under zuck's own post in threads.net and determine if that's the type of content you want.

for those who don't want to visit, majority of the commentators are bots. some advertising crypto, and others asking for money.

even if you think you can individually block those accounts, keep in mind the size of threads compared to fediverse.
for Lemmy: monthly active users are barely ~~150K~~40K, while for threads it's 100 million. there's no chance you can control that inflow of bots.

and if it still doesn't convince you, you can read threads' privacy policy, which states that they'll gather all that pii if you interact with their content.

most of the internet is already bigtech, I don't want Lemmy to become another arm of it. though I have faith in my instance maintainer and dessalines, the dev.

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[-] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 99 points 10 months ago

Comment stolen from user "copygirl" from blahaj.zone:

Looks like they'll be harvesting your data if you follow anyone from Threads, maybe even injecting ads. Unsure what happens to the data of people that get followed by a Threads user. A large part of the fediverse is here precisely because they want to escape corporate meddling, data-hoarding, advertising and other anti-user malpractices. There's a number of people talking about this, here's a recent post that highlights some of the things from their TOS.

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 95 points 10 months ago

Let users decide because we’re fucking adults.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 64 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Great thing about the fediverse

People get to decide what they want from their platform

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[-] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 10 months ago

Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.

I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.

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[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Then go join threads.net? Nobody's stopping you from doing that. That would put you on a server friendly to your beliefs.

Server admins also have opinions, and are not required to take a democratic vote and each individual user's choice into account. They can decide for themselves, and they will, for good or ill. If you don't like where it ends up, your user decision should be to fuck off to threads.

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[-] letsmakeafriendship@lemmy.world 86 points 10 months ago

In favor of defederation. If I start seeing garbage from threads in my feed, I'm switching instances. I don't want Meta pushing their divisive, hateful, misinformation all up in my feeds. Meta will kill fedi. We don't need them.

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[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 78 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If anybody remembers XMPP being widespread and what Facebook, Google, Apple and others (say, I personally remember VK and Yandex in Russia supporting it) did to it, that's what will happen if you "wait and see".

EDIT: oh, half the thread is such comments

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[-] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago
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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago

Currently, I think there are two main branches of ActivityPub implementations: Microblogs(Mastodon and its forks, the microblog portion of kbin), which are user centric, and group based aggregators(Lemmy, Kbin, peertube, future Pixelfed), both of which are valid implementations, however, they don't really work well with each other.

So, I believe that the threat of Threads to Lemmy instances is really overblown for the simple reason that there is no way for a Lemmy user to browse microblog contents through federation to begin with, whether it be Mastodon or Threads.

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[-] Sho@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

If anything meta integrates here I'm out.

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[-] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

Let's not defederate from every corporate player. Some of them can probably respect reasonable rules of civility.

But fuck Meta. We already know how this plays out.

We know there's a huge wave of hatred and misinformation incoming. We've seen it on their other platforms.

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[-] Creatortray@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago

Okay. I’ve seen stuff like this on both mastodon, and here, but i haven’t heard about them doing anything that would actually harm the fediverse. I guess i don’t know what the problem is. I know they’ve got a negative reputation, and for good reason, but isn’t that the awesome part of threads being federated? We can follow and connect to people there without being part of their system, and therefor not susceptible to their bs? If I’m missing something please fill me in.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago

It is inevitable that Meta will try to kill the fediverse while chasing profits, there is no other possibility in their endgame.

If that is pushing ads into other instances or killing those instances entirely we don’t know yet but it will happen.

It has to because the shareholders must always have more.

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[-] Dieinahole@kbin.social 40 points 10 months ago

Just think:

Meta has literal billions of users.

The entire fediverse has about 1.5 million.

Less than a fraction of a percent.

Why in THE FUCK would meta notice, or care, at fucking all? The entire fediverse of traffic ported over to meta wouldn't budge their advertising bottom line.

But, it's a comparatively small group of smart people, having conversations, and profiles they don't have tabs and near total control over.

There's news about cop city and gaza I have seen here that I've seen NOWHERE else.

Don't let them control the narrative here

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[-] rsolva@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We should avoid making blanket demands like this to the fediverse as a whole. I happen to support your position, but we should take into account the diverse nature of the social web.

Instead of making demands, explain your reasoning and leave each community to make up their own mind. This is the beautiful nature of the social web; we have broken decision making down into many smaller units instead of one mega instance/corporation.

Find a community that resonates with your own thinking on this issue, and over time a thousand different servers will gather experiences and a picture will start to form; was federation with Meta a good or a bad thing?

[-] underscores@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 10 months ago

There's a list of people that have agreed to block it at https://fedipact.online/

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

0.19 allows users themselves to block instances...

[-] nia_the_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The posts, not comments by the users on other instances posts

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[-] corbin@infosec.pub 30 points 10 months ago

How about users make decisions for themselves and block Threads if they want?

[-] Masimatutu@mander.xyz 36 points 10 months ago

Threads' size will unaviodably disrupt the Fediverse if they federate fully, regardless their intentions. I think the appropriate approach is making interaction opt-in, like social.coop does: https://social.coop/@eloquence/111588877096843391

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