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[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun fact: mental health issues are less prevalent when you're able to afford a healthy diet, roof over your head, occasional social activities, and aren't constantly stressed about all the bills you have to pay.

Here's my solution:

  • Currently the US spends roughly $11,912 per capita on healthcare. New Zealand, a comparably developed country, spends $4,393 per capita but their system apparently provides better care.
  • the US follows New Zealand's example and properly regulates the pharma, insurance and healthcare system, bringing down costs by $7519.
  • the US now has better (mental-)healthcare
  • Everyone gets a Universal Basic Income of $626.58(=$7519/12) per month to help pay the most important bills or help pay the rent
[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

First, I'm incredibly fortunate to have a high paying job. Second, that high paying job lets me get good healthcare and quality living standards. Third, my job also pays for my psychologist! So I'm kinda in this extremely fortunate circumstance where I get so much support.

Versus my family. No one in my family makes above 40k. None of them has the perks I have. They all go through some struggles. And no amount of therapy will help them when really, the issue always leads back to finances.

It's a shit cycle.

[-] hh93@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

While money doesn't but happiness the absence of money surely makes happiness almost impossible with how much you always have to worry about different stuff...

I'm very thankful to be in a position where I don't have to worry about which supermarket has the cheapest groceries as I know I can afford it if it's 10% more expensive than it needs to be - seeing my mom spending hours going through ad-magazines to figure out where to buy what only to save a handful of euros is something I'm very glad I don't have to do

Affordable healthcare specifically including mental health treatment. Unfortunately, in many countries it's not included under universal healthcare AND it's fully taxed.

mental health issues are less prevalent when you're able to afford a healthy diet, roof over your head, occasional social activities, and aren't constantly stressed about all the bills you have to pay.

Biologist here. You are absolutely correct.

The “mental health” we talk about is 100% the functioning of your physical brain. Your physical brain is partly a function of your genes, inherited from your parents and grandparents stretching back to before the first two cells decided to cooperate. It’s partly epigenetics - if your mother was malnourished or stressed that will carry over onto you and can last until your kids’ generation. It’s partly the embryonic environment - nutrition, drug and alcohol use, physical and emotional stresses of the mother, overall medical health. It’s partly how you were raised - physical and emotional abuse, education opportunities, supportive environment, racism, violence, poverty, acceptance. It is constantly being tuned - if you’re in an honor culture in which physical defense of personal honor is mandatory, you’ll have received rewards for doing so. Those help pre-condition the brain to do that kind of thing again, more easily next time. PTSD, whether you’re a marine from Iraq or a kid from Gaza, will change your brain.

Mental health care including medication and therapy can help these problems, but systemic problems need to be addressed systemically, and we’d be better off if we were able to start to alleviate these issues at their causal level.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Oh, I completely understand. That’s why I’d never oppose something like prison reform - although I think it’s a medical problem and the notion of prisons are problematic, I’d rather make life better now than hold off for making everything much much better.

Still, it happens. People used to think epilepsy was caused by demonic possession. We now know it’s just brains misfiring. Knowing that, we can treat the condition with medicine and therapy. We need to expand on that kind of understanding.

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I misread your statement on prison reform and was really confused for a minute there!

You're spot on about now vs later; anytime somebody advocates for waiting for improvements over time, it's almost always a lie to distract from an unwanted compromise now.

[-] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Minor quibble: that’s money spent by the government and private citizens for healthcare. Anything of that $7.5k that didn’t come from government spending can still be reallocated from our military budget though

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If by politics you mean learning to set and respect and have each others boundaries respected (personal, not necessarily just politically).

Also, if your anything boundaries demand the overruling of others' personal soverignty, then go fuck yourself.

Pretty please and thanks for this prompt 😇

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

So our mental health crisis ain't gettin' solved, then.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not when there's so much money to be had with people's sufferings. :-(

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Let me introduce you to the concept of the polycrisis.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The movies for which Guy Ritchie remains best known, Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch, both have this bit in which all the chickens to whom he's spent the past hour patiently getting us acquainted all come home to roost at the same time in the same place, and it's marvelous and hilarious.

It's not so great in the moment, is it?

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

How about just make life worth living for more people?

Instead of trying to help people after they've gone down ... why not prevent them from falling in the first place.

That sounds like preventative care and we don't do that in America!

Now you eat these micro plastics so we can sell you pills.

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Fun fact;

In war zones rates of depression and anxiety drop down to statistically zero.

There's no time for ennui, to much shit is going on that you can admit you have no control over and every decision you make could potentially mean life and death for anyone around you.

People find their purpose. It's just that it's usually "survive", and might develop into "revenge".

[-] TheActualDevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How is that tracked?

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

This reads like the first two (officially released) Fantastic 4 movies. Oh my god! Those heros saved us! That's fine, Susan, but they only had to save you because they caused the bridge to collapse in the first place! Quit praising people for picking up the milk bottle they knocked over, they didn't even clean up the mess!

[-] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Politicians are the ones who have to firstly be locked into mental hospitals I don't see how they will fix the problem..

[-] OnlineAccount150@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Politicians want to improve our worsening mental health with big psychiatric initiatives. The problem with this model, says historian of neuroscience Danielle Carr, is that it ignores the social and structural forces causing widespread mental suffering.

I actually think this is true for everybody diagnosed with a "mental illness". Society wants to push you to a psychiatrist as an easy fix. But in reality, there are social and emotional pressures that have caused the patient to become distressed. It could be bullying, or financial worries, or the loss of a relative, or other big worries. Psychiatry invents "diagnoses" so that the true social and environmental pressures get swept under the rug. Because they don't care about you, they just believe that you might turn dangerous (even if you have no history of doing anything wrong), so they'll drug you to reduce what they think is a risk.

Edit: Thinking about it more, maybe we should get rid of the biopsychosocial model that doctors love to talk about. Just have a psychosocial model instead (getting rid of the bio bit, where they drug the patient). Because nearly all of the time, they never prove any biological fault with the patient's brain. And yet they're still happy to drug the patient.

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