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Yeah, I know he's was compromised by Ferengi, but c'mon, Reg, the guy you were templated on literally served under Picard when he was assimilated.

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[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 88 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Picard was Borg for what, a day? Seven was assimilated as a child and was rescued after a decade and a half? Two?? Hardly even comparable.

[–] teft@startrek.website 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Took the words out of my mouth. I can understand him having PTSD but regaining his humanity shouldn't have been particularly challenging for him.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Still, you'd expect someone who saw it happen to Picard to phrase it better. That's assuming it's a direct quote.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Kinda wack saying Picard's trauma isn't comparable when it clearly effected him quite significantly.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

That’s the thing. Picard has a trauma. She lost her identity, childhood, sense of belonging. It’s entirely different.

Like Bane said, “you merely adopted the borg. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t anything of humanity until I was already a (wo)man.”

Edit: Also, isn’t it addressed at some point that, for 7o9, her trauma was actually to leave the borg and not being in it?

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

That's her initial trauma, yes. There's layers. Like an ogre. She uncovers more as she regains her humanity.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I love this autocorrect.

[–] GreenEnigma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I always cry when I peal the layers of an ogre.

[–] MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Picard spent his childhood on an old timey vineyard in France, playing and laughing and picking grapes. Seven spent hers in a maturation tank until she was big enough to be a soldier.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

Just because the trauma is there doesn't mean the trauma is the same. It definitely had an effect on him, but to say that its the same as what Seven went through is ridiculous.

[–] ummthatguy@startrek.website 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ummthatguy@startrek.website 30 points 2 years ago

And lest we forget:

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe he's saying Picard never had humanity to begin with.

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He is kind of a jerk in season one of TNG….

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

He was literally the only one to call in Broccoli to his face

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Good but I have to say Borg was who she was through and through. Picard was established before assimilation and fought them every step.("sleep data sleep").

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

"Oh that guy? Fuck that guy. You ever really hear about what it was like on the Enterprise? I could tell you a few stories..."

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why is no one mentioning ~~Hue~~ Hugh?

[–] flatplutosociety@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Because at the point that this episode occurred, Hugh wasn't really an ex-Borg yet. He wasn't part of the overall Borg collective, but he was part of the rogue Borg, and whether or not he was fully an individual read probably still up for debate.