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[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, I also think this attempt will ultimately fail. They probably think it could work, but these people are not known for being particularly smart.

It could still divert some people from the right "path" (learning to appreciate good art though), which makes me a bit sad.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Wow, I didn't think, I would get such an interesting book recommendation out of this. Thank you so much!

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

I think the ultimate goal is to destroy art in general because it has always been a majour driving factor for progressive social change (at least since the Renaissance), because art is about critically reflecting on our society and our environment.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Free software works though?? Also if you want some real world examples of anarchist-like principles being applied in praxis, without fascism, look up Rojava or the Zapatista-Movement.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't protecting workers from exploration on of the core goals of communism?

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 16 hours ago

I mean, it's less about the intention and more about the reality of software development. Just because the developers back then didn't chose to do software development in an anarchist way (although I think a lot of them had that kind of mindset), doesn't mean, that they didn't do it using anarchist principles.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 16 hours ago

Alright, thanks ;)

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Are you shure about that? Because that would mean, that every piece of software, that hasn't been released to the public would automatically be free software, which would make the label pretty meaninglessness.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Sorry for being a bit of an idiot, but what is praxis?

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

While I agree, that Marxism-Leninism or Russian-Style "communism" have nothing to do with free software, I would also not call them real communism. Marx litteraly defined communism as a classless, stateless society. There is no such thing as a communist state. I also would argue, that free software is fundamentally anti-capitalist, because it rejects the basis of capitalism, which is private ownership of the means of production (which in this case would be software). So, in my opinion you cannot simultaneously believe that capitalism is the best way to organize software development while believing that free software is the best way to organize software development.

 

This thought came to me in the shower today. Open source checks most of the boxes. It is a collaborative, worker owned (develloper-owned) project, that tries to flatten hierarchy. Especially if you look at something like Debian ), which really tries to have a bottom-up structure.
Of course, there are exceptions, considering there are a lot of corporate open-source projects, that are not democratically maintained and clearly only serve the interest of the company, who created it (like chromium for example).
So I am mainly talking about community-oriented FOSS projects here.
And if you were to agree with my statement, would you say that developing FOSS software is advancing the goals of the anarchist / communist project, because it is laying the groundwork infrastructure needed for a new kind of economy and society?
Thought this could be an interesting discussion!