Dozzi92

Yeah, I just think you've oversimplified it all. Like I said, I love the idea, but it's a huge ask, and it would require a lot of coordination over a period of time. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that sending Marines to the border, and sending them to protests in LA, is causing some kind of disenfranchisement amongst the enlisted, but a circle of dudes throwing rocks at a nalgene complaining about how this is bullshit is a far cry from an organized mutiny, essentially.

It'd be awesome. But how do you get a whole unit openly discussing insubordination? I love the idea, but it's just not practical, and not in the short amount of time. The order came down within the last week? It was probably go go go since then.

They're Marines, I can tell you from experience, they are unfortunately used to it.

2/7 is based on 29 Palms. They may have stopped at Pendleton on the way. 29 Palms is a Marine Corps base only.

Yeah, nobody here knows what they are talking about. "I won't go, I refuse to go." Cool, here come the MPs, you go straight to jail. This shit happened quick. It wasn't like these units had time to talk and maybe try to form a unified front. They got mobilized quick, and so any choice you make, you're doing it on your own.

And so is it right to disobey? Maybe. Is it easy? Absolutely not, and to suggest that is foolish, but easy to do from behind a desk.

And so I think they'll do what they must. They'll show up, they'll stand in a line, and they'll hope they don't need to do any more than that. And it goes unsaid that there's some morons who want to beat on people, but they're the 10%. The rest of them don't want to be there.

You say "easily," but I doubt it appears so easy, because disobeying the order first starts with you violating the UCMJ and paying for it. Only then can you fight and say hey, the order was unlawful. But you're doing that from military jail. It's an uphill battle and there's nothing easy about it.

I imagine the mindset is go, stand around with a shield, don't murk protestors, and try to just wait this shit out.

Plus, for the Marines, they were living in 29 Palms beforehand, so it's practically a vacation.

So the lifecycle of everything is approximately 35ish years. When I was a kid, bell bottoms were popular, and consequently, they were also popular in the late '60s and early '70s, just as an example.

I Am Batman?

I had one of these bad boys.

First thing that came to mind for me.

Yes, just say "I'm from the best US state" next time instead, OP, people will know what you mean.

Yeah, that's the problem isn't it? I have to assume that if there was nowhere to work, there'd be less folks coming here illegally. It's just known you can come, work your ass off, get paid pretty well in cash, and send that shit home on a weekly basis. And there's rules about what can get sent home and there are ways folks skirt that all the time. It's a whole economy. And nothing is done about the people facilitating it. It's arresting the drug user, but leaving the dealers in place.