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so funny thing

Israel asked Bush to strike Iran's nuclear program. Bush refused

They asked him again to strike Syria's program

He refused again.

The US airstrikes on Iran, a timeline of tonight, all times are in Tehran time-zone:

• Pre 1am: Israeli drones activated air defenses in several Iranian regions.
• 1:14am: Fighter jets were heard over Shiraz.
• 1:22am: Several aircraft were heard over central Iran.
• 2:04am: Two jets [bombers] and an explosion were heard near Qom. Qom's countryside is the site of Fordow.
• 2:13am: An explosion was heard near Kashan, another city near Fordow.
• 2:38am: An explosion was heard at Fordow, but it was assumed a drone was intercepted. Which has now proven wrong.
• 2:41am: A loud explosion was heard at Isfahan's Atomic Energy Facility.
• 2:46am: An explosion was heard at Natanz Nuclear Facility.
• 2:55am: GPS jamming was observed across Iran.

Reminder this only happened because Trump tore up the original deal and Iran was pissed. He had no negotiating position to make a new one because why would Iran agree when you didn't follow the old one. The cope about it not being approved by congress doesn't make it illegal. Since when does maga care about that ? Trump has defied judges several times now.

Second wasn't a big thing Maga roared about was that Trump was anti war ?

Exactly, I know to more normie liberals and Americans Europe's speech policies seem bad, but the truth is it's either undemocratic liberalism or illiberal democracy and the Europeans have made their choice. The European populace just can't be trusted to vote on some issues and it's been decided immigration is one. Everyone has the right to asylum and Europeans don't have the right to stop people from fleaing the countries they ruined. I think justice for colonized people is more important then the right of random Europeans to be racist.

That is what I think the left has failed at and it kept me as a baby leftist for a while because I would as a question and they would accuse me of being an alt right troll.

I love debating. I especially love debating right wingers because it's fun and makes the world better. One thing they are better about one of the few things is answering questions ,if you have questions they have answers. I would make fun of them and ask dumb hypothetical and they would still answer

How is that post wrong ?

How is anything I have said wrong.

Thanks I agree and this is a valuable perspective

So funny thing is republicans say the same thing. There is a famous quote "“Conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit.”"

I would argue the left needs to take some responsibility with getting distracted in the culture war and losing site of the working class. Look at Bernie you can go back to 2016 and see people saying that bernie was a bro candidate and not progressive enough compared to hillarly on insert x wedge issue here

there just isn't a sure path to success anymore. It's possible to technically do everything right and still fail.

I agree that we need to be more technocratic as I think democracy is kind of running it's course in the world. Maga also has a lot of contradictions to be fair