Navarian

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There’s been a lot of noise lately about Wales reaching “parity” with Scotland. Devolution, powers, control over our economy, our justice system, our media. And sure, on the face of it, who could argue? Scotland has more powers than Wales. Always has. So it stands to reason, some say, that Wales should simply be brought up to their level.

But here’s the problem with that framing.

It assumes that Scotland is the bar to aspire to, not the fellow traveller on the road to something far bigger. It assumes that our liberation is about catching up, not moving forward. And worst of all, it assumes that England will always be the default. The centre of power. The seat of legitimacy and control.

I reject that entirely. I don't want equality with Scotland. I want equality with England. Wales deserves to stand as an equal partner, not as a poorer cousin begging to be brought up to the same tier.

Note - I am the author of this piece, all feedback and constructive criticism welcome

 

There’s been a lot of noise lately about Wales reaching “parity” with Scotland. Devolution, powers, control over our economy, our justice system, our media. And sure, on the face of it, who could argue? Scotland has more powers than Wales. Always has. So it stands to reason, some say, that Wales should simply be brought up to their level.

But here’s the problem with that framing.

It assumes that Scotland is the bar to aspire to, not the fellow traveller on the road to something far bigger. It assumes that our liberation is about catching up, not moving forward. And worst of all, it assumes that England will always be the default. The centre of power. The seat of legitimacy and control.

I reject that entirely. I don't want equality with Scotland. I want equality with England. Wales deserves to stand as an equal partner, not as a poorer cousin begging to be brought up to the same tier.

Note - I am the author of this piece, all feedback and constructive criticism welcome

 

There would be no independence referendum in the first term of a Plaid Cymru-led government, its leader has said.

Rhun ap Iorwerth told BBC Walescast his "number one priority" would be getting to grips with health, education and the economy.

 

There could be no “formal relationship” between Plaid Cymru and Reform UK following the next Welsh elections, the party leader has said.

Rhun ap Iorwerth ruled out a deal with Nigel Farage’s party 12 months out from the next Welsh general election.

Plaid and Reform are currently predicted to be the two biggest parties in Wales next year, according to a YouGov poll published on Tuesday.

However, neither is expected to have enough votes for an outright majority.

Mr ap Iorwerth said there would be areas that every party could work together on, with Plaid previously having had a cooperation agreement with Labour that collapsed last year.

 

Desmond Clifford

When Pope Francis died, I was surprised by my level of interest. I had an intensely Catholic early life but haven’t been much in churches for years.

So far as I could tell, Francis was a humble man whose heart was in the right place.

He mistrusted the Vatican civil service (“the Curia”), as any pope should.

He was personally tolerant and merciful and spoke up for immigrants when practically no one else would.

Apparently, he could be irascible, which only made him more human in my eyes.

The part of his mission which was to be a shepherd and lead by example, I think he did very well.

I’m less sure about the institutional side of his mission. His personal support for those marginalised by the Church – women, gays, divorcees – didn’t translate into reform.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

I appreciate the more balanced tone here, so let me respond in kind.

You are absolutely right that a single poll, especially one commissioned by an advocacy group, should not be treated as definitive. That is why I did not base my argument solely on the March 2025 poll. It is part of a broader pattern that has emerged across multiple public polls over the past few years. YouGov, Redfield & Wilton and Omnisis, for example, have all shown support for independence gradually increasing, particularly among younger voters. The private poll simply highlights and reinforces that existing trend.

I also agree that we need more consistent data to fully establish whether pro-independence views are retained as voters age. However, the evidence we do have suggests that this is happening. Those who were in favour at 25 still tend to be in favour at 35. While that trend needs more time to be confirmed definitively, it is already significant enough to warrant attention, at least in my opinion.

The main point here is not that independence is guaranteed or inevitable, but that the Welsh Lib Dems have traditionally relied on younger voters, and younger voters are consistently more likely to support independence than older ones. Ignoring that shift may not matter today, but it is a strategic risk in the longer term.

And just to add, I fully agree with your final point. Independence should only happen if it has clear and sustained support within Wales. That is the only democratic basis on which it could, or perhaps even should, proceed.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I welcome disagreement, but it helps if it engages with what I actually wrote.

You are right that private polls should be treated with caution. I did not spell out those limitations clearly enough in the article, and I take that point. But even putting the YesCymru poll to one side, the very data you have shared backs up the trend I am highlighting. In 2014, support for independence was around 12 percent. Now it is at 35 percent, or 41 percent if you exclude “don’t knows”. That is a clear and sustained increase over the past decade.

On youth support, the figures you show are from 2023 and are already outdated. More recent polling consistently shows that support for independence among younger voters is considerably higher than among the general population, often by a large margin, for example 72% in the most recent poll if “don’t knows” are excluded.

The Welsh Lib Dems do not 'need' to adopt a pro-independence stance, but ignoring a steadily growing shift in public opinion, especially among the voter base they have traditionally relied on, is politically short-sighted. Recognising this is not wishful thinking, it is basic strategic awareness.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

You seem to miss the irony of claiming that I ignored your links, when the very piece you're commenting under contains links substantiating the claims I've made here to you in the comments.

I suppose you make a little more sense to me now that I know you haven't actually read the article.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I'm unsure how much you know about demographics in Wales, so I'll explain some to you now.

Independence on the whole is currently polling about 41% in favour, that's the entire electorate. When you instead look at 16-34 Year Olds, that support jumps to over 70%, it's also become clear that as this group continues aging, their independence support isn't wavering.

Historically, The Welsh Lib Dems have garnered most of their electoral support from the 16-34 block of voters. In shitting on one of the biggest issues that over 70% of their base care about, they're shooting themselves in the foot massively.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

How can you see this genocide unfolding, ethnic cleansing at a minimum of you're scared if using the G word, and still say "Well, I don't really want to take a side here"

This kind of rhetoric enables these war crimes. You've outlined yourself what Israel is doing, and they're going to continue because the western governments aren't doing anything real about it.

The least we can do as individuals is call them out on their bullshit and remind others around us that the genocide they're committing is entirely fucked up and unjustifiable.

 

There was a time, not too long ago, when the Welsh Liberal Democrats mattered. Never at the top, mind you, but they were at least part of the national conversation. A couple of Senedd seats, a smattering of MPs, a sense of progressive credibility. But that time is over. And after this week’s full-throated rejection of Welsh independence from their lone Senedd member, it’s hard to see them doing anything but fading quietly into political irrelevance.

Note - I am the author of this piece, any constructive feedback or criticism is welcome!

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There was a time, not too long ago, when the Welsh Liberal Democrats mattered. Never at the top, mind you, but they were at least part of the national conversation. A couple of Senedd seats, a smattering of MPs, a sense of progressive credibility. But that time is over. And after this week’s full-throated rejection of Welsh independence from their lone Senedd member, it’s hard to see them doing anything but fading quietly into political irrelevance.

Note - I am the author of this piece, any constructed feedback welcome, thanks!

 

The Senedd’s only Liberal Democrat has claimed that independence would be so devastating for Wales that it would “make Brexit look like a walk in the park”.

Mid and West Wales MS Jane Dodds made the comments on Monday (April 28) following the announcement of Plaid Cymru’s new economic plan for Wales.

The party – led by Ynys Môn MS Rhun ap Iorwerth – has promised to “breathe new life” into the Welsh economy if they win the next Senedd election in May 2026.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

I see, forgive my earlier ignorance then, appreciate the teaching moment.

I suppose my point about earlier calls for help by Plaid is still true though, fuck knows what Labour and the Tories were playing at.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's my understanding that all three furnaces are decommissioned at Port Talbot - I imagine it's cheaper/more economical to recommission existing furnaces than it is to start from scratch.

Government funding could do exactly that, though given they left it to close down in the first place when they had a chance to save it, I doubt they'll heed Plaid's call here sadly.

 

Plaid Cymru’s leader Rhun ap Iorwerth has urged both the UK and Welsh Labour Governments to commit to significant investment in Port Talbot following the closure of TATA Steel’s last blast furnace in September last year.

Mr ap Iorwerth made the comments on a visit to the town in the aftermath of the emergency measures taken in recent days by the UK Government to safeguard the future of British Steel’s Scunthorpe works.

Accompanied by the party’s spokesperson for Economy and Energy Luke Fletcher, he met with residents and former steel workers on Tuesday (15 April) to hear directly from the community how both Governments must now develop a strategy that ensures a future of steelmaking in Port Talbot.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

We should just be doing the same with Israeli headlines "Genocidal warmongers claim X"

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

It should come as a surprise to nobody that a complete unwillingness to have something come to an end is quite a barrier to said thing coming to an end.

That mixed with incompetence, even if he wanted the cash cow that is the illegal invasion of Ukraine to end, he's not intelligent enough to navigate that.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

1Gb down 200Mb up - £39.99/month in Wales.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"So it turns out veering gradually to the right just isn't working for us, it's probably the 'far left's' fault"

I knew as a European that the US only had two right wing parties, with the democratic party sitting firmly to the right of most of our centrist parties here, but this is just fucking stupid.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They also actively ignore those 'No licence needed' declarations, I've submitted three, two online and one by mail and they still routinely threaten to show up on my doorstep 'any day now'

Why ask me to declare it if you're going to ignore that? There's probably cause for a complaint there but I'd rather not waste the oxygen.

 

It is the end at one of the biggest steelworks in the world as the last blast furnace shuts down, leaving it unable to make its own steel.

Nearly 2,000 jobs will be lost at Tata Steel UK’s Port Talbot plant as blast furnace number four ceases production meaning it will no longer be able to make virgin steel.

The ironworks will enter a transition phase until 2027 when steelmaking will resume through a £1.25 billion electric arc furnace.

The new furnace uses electric current to melt scrap steel or iron to produce steel, whereas blast furnaces use coke, a carbon-intensive fuel made from coal to produce steel.

 

The latest National March for Rejoin is scheduled for this coming weekend in London, on Saturday 28 September. It comes at a time of mixed fortunes for those campaigning to take the UK back into the EU. On the one hand, the level of support for rejoining has never been higher. The social and economic effects of Brexit are becoming clearer, and Brexiters sound increasingly defensive.

On the other hand, the political outlook remains challenging. Labour in office has stuck to its red lines on freedom of movement. It talks about “resetting” the relationship, and at least – unlike its predecessors – behaves maturely when dealing with European counterparts. But it persists in its stance that there’s “no case” for joining the Single Market and Customs Union, let alone rejoining the EU as a full member. While there are some hopeful signs, its position on free movement for young people remains a barrier to substantive changes in the relationship.

 

A three week-long celebration of music is coming to Cardiff from tomorrow (Friday, September 27).

According to organisers the Cardiff Music City Festival is set to push the boundaries of music innovation, performance and tech.

A spokesperson said: “The Welsh capital has a rich history as an exciting and energetic music city and this autumn Cardiff’s streets will pulse with immersive music happenings, secret gigs, headline shows and inventive pop-ups.

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