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For religious people, how do you reconcile your faith with communism? in c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml

[–] RedZodan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Assalamualakum brother, I am with you. I will take your suggestion into account. Though bringing up philosophers, their philsophy, and explaining all these terms like socialism might be a little hard for her to understand. I think on top of the things I already show and explain to her (Beliefs, culture, anti-imperialism, etc.), the next step is probably to explain to her the violence our sect (sunnis) have done to shias in an effort to gain sympathy from her.

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[–] RedZodan@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Hello, no not at all. In fact, being a sunni, I'm very proud of the revolutionary fighting that Iran (that is predominately Shia) is doing compared to sunnis in other Middle East countries that choose to side with imperialists. I've actually been working on getting rid of the prejudice that my mother has towards Shias by showing her the work they've done and explaining their differences which aren't a betrayal of Islam.

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[–] RedZodan@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thank you, you give me some hope and relief. I once though brought up your point about scientists and other professionals still believing in religion to an atheist and they responded with "There is a cognitive dissonance. Relativity of simultaneity automatically rules out most religious metaphysical interpretations."

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Day by day I begin to wonder more and more if I can even call myself a communist anymore. Its becoming hard to really reconcile my faith with communism if the ideology itself is theorically opposed to it. Bukharin's book, "ABCs of Communism," has an entire section on Chapter 11 that directly talks about why religion and communism are incompatible. Communists believe history is driven by class struggle and material conditions. Religious people believe in stuff like divine intervention or divine will. A communist would probably look at islam (my faith) and be like "No prophet was sent a message by God and acted upon it, it was their material conditions that made them act." I don't see how one could believe both, it feels like its either or.

Sure, it is perfectly possible for religious people to largely agree with Marxists on such things as historical materialism and present-day class struggles, not to mention struggles for national liberation, against racism, etc. It is possible be anti-capitalist and fight for a classless, moneyless, and stateless society where MOP is colletively owned but at the end of the day, there is philosophical tension.

I feel at best, I can be an ally, but the way I see it, I will never be one of them. I do not belong. My voice does not count equally and my beliefs make me suspect. I have faced hostility from leftists that are atheist and hostile towards religion and been called a revisionist. If this is how me and others are gonna be treated just because of our faith, I'd rather die than simply be used as cannon fodder in a revolution.