UmbraVivi

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[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There is no equivalence between those in decolonial struggle who, through the evil cruelty of the colonizer, have ceased to view their colonizers as human and between those genocidal settlers who are actively participating in or otherwise enabling the genocidal dehumanization of those same colonized peoples.

Yes! I agree! That's why there's no pearl-clutching in my post about October 7th victims or the hostages or whatever. My post is about my emotions and what I hope to see in myself and other online bystanders, not the people actually engaging in decolonial struggle. I just don't want my hexbear comrades to display the same kind of sadism I see when I click "translate" on a Hebrew tweet, and my emotions had me worried that I might go down that route.

(I use the term "Israelis" because I'm specifically talking to the people currently located in occupied Palestine, while "Zionist" is a political ideology that could also refer to my neighbors. I assure you it's not for the sake of sympathy.)

I will say this: Zionists are people. Slave owners were people and the Nazis were all, unfortunately, people. The humanity of these groups is not to be decided by their victims. I agree that we can and should forgive their victims if they do not recognize their oppressors as such, but we as bystanders do not have that excuse for ourselves. Also, what it actually means that they're human is a whole other discussion.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

My "analysis of Zionist 'humanity'"? What does that even mean?

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

I think group dynamics and dehumanization can turn anyone into a monster. It's the only explanation I have for many horrors that have happened and still happen in the world.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I 100% agree. You don't need to feel sad for settlers scrolling through TikTok in their bomb shelters right now. I'm talking about a time when the war is won. When people are at their lowest and experiencing genuine misery. That's when we will need to remember empathy and to treat them with dignity, exactly what they are not displaying towards the Palestinians right now.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

You'd get along great with them 👍

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

People like Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir deserve no compassion though. Straight to the wall, the most compassion you can show these monsters is to give them a quick death, something that no Palestinian has had the privilege of.

Nobody's asking you to feel empathy right now for a fascist warmonger who's spouting genocide propaganda while hiding in a bunker in Greece.

But I would still feel a certain amount of empathy if I found Netanyahu in the rubble of his home, weeping over the charred corpse of his wife. It's less about what he deserves in this case, but about being capable of feeling empathy with anyone, and I mean literally anyone, when they're at their lowest and most powerless. Because that is what is so shocking about the Israelis right now, that despite being in a position of complete power and their "enemies" being starved and killed without a shred of dignity, they seemingly feel nothing but sadistic glee.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

I guess on some karmic level it would be "deserved", but there's a reason I tend to put that word in quotation marks.

As a theoretical simulated punishment, then maybe if it had any rehabilitative value? I'd still be against it if it was just emotional torture. Lock them up or execute them if they're too dangerous to be kept alive, but nobody is helped by tormenting some old men in VR.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

My suggestion would be the death stare she gave Trump a couple years back.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Lord give me the confidence of Mehdi Hasan referring to Greta as "Zeteo contributor Greta Thunberg".

Btw how do we not have a single Greta emote? This is why we don't have communism yet

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 63 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait I thought they had nowhere else to go

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

The attitude of "If we don't do it to them, they'll do it to us" is how most atrocities in history were justified.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I have a lot of respect for xiaohongshu but they're a compulsive doomer. By almost every observable metric China is either catching up to or overtaking the United States, yet in every other post I see of xiaohongshu they're doing the "The CCP is collapsing"/"Xi is finished" meme but from a Chinese communist perspective. Meanwhile every action of the US government is treated as a cunning strategy that we should by no means misinterpret as the tantrum of a declining empire led by failsons and TV show hosts.

The US are not gonna go down without a fight and they have a lot of brute force at their disposal, but they are crumbling in front of our very eyes. We can all see it. We can see their moronic leaders. Even liberals will agree that China is on the rise and the US is declining. I know we shouldn't underestimate our enemies but xiaohongshu is taking it to an absurd degree, everything that happens is somehow bad for China and good for the US and it was also planned by the US all along. They're clearly highly educated on the subjects they talk about, but I'm taking all of their conclusions, predictions and interpretations with a huge grain of salt.

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