Well, not the only one considering that the USA is a thing, but that sort of near-religious treatment of eg a constitution is not normal at least from the perspective of dirty foreigners like me

Ainoa, mitä se tarkoittaa on se, että häntä ei ole tuomittu. Sitä voi samalla olla tukematta moraalitonta käytöstä ja myös kunnioittaa länsimaista oikeuskäytäntöä.

Vittu mitä hevonpaskaa, näin suoraan sanottuna.

Mitä helvettiä tuo on oikein tarkoittavinaan? Juu, alaikäisten vokottelu ei varsinaisesti ole laitonta, onnittelut tästä Willelle, mutta miten helvetin vitussa sitä nyt pitäisi "kunnioittaa" että hän ei todistettavasti ylittänyt rikoksen kynnystä?

single stage to orbit

Why doesn't Biden just have Trump and the conservative SC judges shot for treason? It'd be an "official act" and therefore OK according to conservatives, after all. It'd make the world in general a better place, and also help stop the US sliding (further…) into fascism

Yes, exactly. In general the whole notion and everything they claim is fucking idiotic from start to finish. Outright lies, misunderstandings, misrepresented partial truths, etc.

Those two friends of mine aren't "gunpowder inventors" as we Finns tend to express it, ie. they're… well, stupid would be a bit too harsh, but they're definitely not smart. I'm not surprised in the least that they fell down that rabbit hole, but fuck does it get tiring.

Yeah it'd be a waste of your time and energy.

I have two friends recently suddenly drop into the conspiracist nutball rabbit hole, and I really don't have much enthusiasm to see them anymore. Last time they grilled me on the moon landings, and absolutely nothing I said meant anything to them. If I hesitated even for a second when answering one of their "accusations" they took it as proof that I'm the one who doesn't know what they're talking about – couldn't be that I tried to think of a way of explaining something to people who clearly aren't familiar with the subject at all beyond whatever idiotic conspiracy garbage they've consumed.

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Fucking hell what now

off Rwanda plan

Oh okay

I keep repeating this, but "moderate" conservatives are mythical creatures much like unicorns or ethical billionaires.

Every conservative either outright supports authoritarianism, or would be fine with it as long as it's their side in power because of course the leopards won't eat their faces. "Moderates" will always choose co-operation with literal fascists over co-operation with the left because they ultimately have fewer ideological disagreements with them – just look at what's happening here in Europe with all the "moderates" lining up to kiss Meloni's ring (remember that her FdI party is literally a descendant of the original Fascist Party and multiple of its members including Meloni have voiced admiration of Mussolini)

Bring Jeb back alive

Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions." Now they have two problems.

Yeah, non-conservatives (mainly liberals) really need to get it into their heads that every single conservative either actively wants an authoritarian state that murders "woke" people and minorities, or if they're not outright for it they think that surely the leopards won't eat their face because they're on the right side.

Ultimately even a "moderate" conservative has fewer disagreements with literal neo-Nazis (oh wait, except the Nazis are leftists according to reich-wingers) than they do with anybody left of the fucking Strasserites. Even if a conservative is not calling for the extermination of {CURRENT_HATED_MINORITY}, they're still more than happy to support parties that either have fascist members or collaborate with fascists.

This is on clear display here in Europe; the "moderate" conservatives are lining up to kiss Meloni's ass, and they don't mind at all that FdI (Meloni's party) is a literal offshoot of the original Fascist Party and a huge percentage of their MPs and "lay members" have voiced their love of Mussolini.