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How do you vote against capitalism?

"You shouldn't pay attention to politics it's unhealthy." - My "liberal" "centrist" family. "You should focus on yourself" they say, "It is what it is, can't do anything to change it, work on yourself" they say, as if the most enlightened and reasonable perspective is to put a blanket over your head and pretend that the monsters don't exist. They'd say "It's hard to take you seriously, maybe become a politician or economist" but when you give them reading material written by economists, politicians, as well as lauded minds like MLK Jr or Einstein, they roll their eyes and go "You shouldn't pay attention to politics it's unhealthy, focus on yourself."

The DNC being in favor of genocide steered muslim voters to want to burn this whole place down.

The muslim vote and Gaza protest votes combined isn't what caused democrats to lose and they didn't want to "burn this whole place down" as you put it, Democrats lost because of their shitty campaign, saying nothing about progressive politics or what people wanted to hear, ontop of all the Gaza stuff, and has the likes of Bill Clinton campaigning for them. Don't blame muslims for the Democrats shitty-ass campaign.

or convenience, or ignorance...

These two are especially important, and why I call fascist on pretty much all centrists who think that political and social ignorance is the most sensible and reasonable position. "Both sides have good and bad ideas," they say with their head high, and after the damage is done they blame both sides for not being as sensible as them. "I dislike extremists no matter what side they're on," they say, as they scoff and roll their eyes at protestors marching against police brutality, "get a job" some of these enlightened centrists would say. They act wise, and caring, saying "I just want the best for humanity" with not even so much as a vague depiction of what that could be, or how to go about it, you ask "How do we get there?" They shrug. "Do you read any political theory?" you may ask, they shrug again. "I don't take sides, nor do I have time to read anymore, I need to focus on work to pay the bills and feed my family."

These types of people are not centrist, they're fascist.

capitalism is that if everyone did it correctly, and worked together to maximize each other’s value, it wouldn’t even be that bad.

Capitalism isn't, never was, and never could be about working together to maximize each other's value. It has always, only was, and will only ever be about privatizing value, stamping a logo on other peoples work going "This is my work now." All that "free, competitive market" bullcrap exists with or without capitalism, "better product is more popular" has nothing to do with capitalism except stifling better products for sake of capital aka profits, such as planned obsolescence, for-profit healthcare/prisons, buying cheap selling high, etc. You really think the people who invented the sail kept their IP private for the sake of profit? Or do they share that value with the world simply because everyone would benefit. What about metallurgy, leavened bread, beer? The polio vaccine? Some people worship the markets like a God that bears them miracles through human sacrifice, other atheists go one God further.

Nor have human beings and their endlessly diverse methods of trade and commerce in some rugged jungle somewhere need some white european/russian dude from the 1800s to tell them the complex philosophy of "sharing."

C-level is beholden to shareholders, who would pay minimum wage if given the option.

They'd pay less than that. "Minimum wage" means "I'd pay you less, but I can't because it's illegal." Hell, workers had to fight for weekends, they'd happily take that away and put kids back in factories if they could.

Please tell us more how an individual should put themselves into harms-way while you type behind your brave keyboard.

I took a brick to the knee standing up against the UK fascists that went running around doing pogroms. I'd take a million more too. What are you doing to stand up against fascism? Show up to work on time?

How's that working out for you?

"I'm still too comfortable, I need to pay my bills" should be the summoning chant for fascism.

Thank you for proving my point, bicker and bitch while you see how much worse things get it is then. Americans like you truly deserve what's coming, because the rest of the world is trying to scream at you but "it's not bad enough yet." I'll ask again, what will it take? Where is the line that they cross when you KNOW they're a threat to your life?

Not disgusted enough to mobilize against them though.

It's coming and Americans are refusing to see the oncoming headlights.