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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

Concentration camp/torture camp.

Lots of people fantasize about what they might do if they had the opportunity to act to stop what was happening in WWII Germany but here we are.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 21 points 2 days ago

All the big, strong, don't-tread-on-me styled people just rolling on their backs and showing their bellies to fascism. What a time to be alive, at least Germans of the 1920s-30s didn't have a direct case study to refer to.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Its worse in some ways, the US is a far bigger country. While the 3rd reich destroyed their economy under the repayment plans of WW1 The US seems to be committing a similar kind of economic suicide with absolutely zero pressure to do so.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

America's first camp.....in 83 years.

Thanks conservatives.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 40 points 2 days ago

Speed running the third Reich over here. Has the doctor given him bad news?

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago

MAGA has a hardon for cruelty. It's about hurting people. They love the idea a rounding up non-white people, loading them into boxcars, and shipping them off to concentration camps. Everything that Trump has done so far is going make billionaires richer and regular Americans much poorer but as long as he's hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him.

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[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 days ago

Both the most US thing you could possibly do AND a gross violation of what the US aspires to be.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago
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[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 265 points 3 days ago

It's sorta like a camp, but concentrated on one type of person....

[-] Beefcyclone@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago

There should be a name for such a thing

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 28 points 2 days ago

Guantanamo Bay... the blacksite for literal terrorists that is considered highly controversial for literal terrorists? What the actual fuck.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The blacksite for innocent people kidnapped and tortured for 20+ years by the US without allegations and then released*

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[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 164 points 3 days ago

I knew the concentration camps were coming, but just after ten days? Holy shit

[-] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The faster they move the more they can get done before their opponents can mobilise resistance.

I would say that so far, there appears to be much less public resistance to Republican policies than in previous years. The Democrats appear to be at sea. The left's working class base is split. Public institutions are too busy protecting their turf, making gestures at cooperating with the new world order rather than trying to resist.

It feels like last time there was an assumption that ~~Trump and MAGA politics~~ a criminal dictator and fascist politics were a blip or aberration from the norm, now there's an acceptance that they're institutionalised.

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 days ago

Trump and MAGA politics

Maybe the language we use to describe them is itself normalising and pacifying. Like calling a Nazi salute a "hand gesture."

I would suggest "a criminal dictator and fascist politics" as a substitute in your sentence to provoke an acceptable, proportionate reaction.

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[-] ricketyrackets@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

Americans. You have a second amendment and a right to utilize that amendment against tyranny.

Exercise your right. In 4 years you won’t have a country that even remotely resembles what is supposed to be America and the land of the free.

Take down the nazis, destroy facism. Fight the power!

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[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 days ago

I'm sure imprisoning 30000 innocent people next to highly trained terrorists won't come back to haunt the US.

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago

Newsflash about the current inmates of Guantanamo

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[-] ozoned@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

And only $13 million per year in 2019, https://archive.ph/oOiK4 , per inmate that's $390,000,000,000 per year. Sounds like a great use of tax payer money.

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[-] andallthat@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

for those of you who live in the US: there must surely be Republican voters being appalled by this too, right? ~Right?~

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Our people are horrible, vindictive morons.

And I don't mean that from a place of emotional response to bad things, I am saying all of this dispassionately and analytically. The country has a large population of people who are objectively horrible, and vindication has become our primary focus for political action, and this is all because they're generally morons.

I can't even really exaggerate or overplay this. The average American's intelligence is worse than abysmal. I used to lead a team of data-workers at a large company, we had nice, casual morning meetings and talked about the latest events for about a half hour before work. I ended up in the position of people bringing me news stories and headlines to "translate" for them. I had to explain what planets are, I had to explain how gravity works, I had to explain how democracy works, I had to explain history and math and facts and ratios and words like "industrious" or "ambivalent" every day, over and over. AND I'M NOT A SMART PERSON. I have always prided myself on being informed, but at some point I became the one-eyed king in the land of the blind and I hate it.

Everything here is going to get so, so much worse because I know how far down the barrel goes, and we haven't even touched the bottom yet.

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[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

They'll claim they disagree with it and they don't like Trump (except for -insert all his policies-) and then vote for him for a third term when he makes that legal. They need to pretend not to salivate about oppressing brown people when they are in polite company but that's about it.

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago
[-] kava@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Immigration detention centers have been around for a while now. Virtually all of them ran by private corporations. People rail against private prisons but they make up a tiny tiny minority of prisoners. Over 90% of immigration detention centers are privately owned.

So we're going to throw millions of people into camps so that a few corporations can extract a ton of public taxpayer money. They're also gonna stay there for years because it's logistically impossible to move over 10 million people quickly.

I didn't think fascism would happen again my lifetime. But I guess here we are

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[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 114 points 3 days ago

As an added note, they deported multiple children to Colombia the other day. Half the people they've arrested in specific areas have zero criminal records. Some are even US citizens. This is not for immigrants, this a Latino concentration camp.

I know two people first hand who have been here for over 30 years with no criminal records who are being detained. These are the people being sent to Guantanamo.

[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 days ago

And then the US said to Germany, "We too, can do Auschwitz."

[-] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

They think the problem with Auschwitz is that people could see it.

[-] gift_of_gab@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago

My grandmother fought in the Dutch resistance, helped people who were Jewish escape, and was put in a camp. She died a few years ago. This is how that happened, too. And we're all watching. Even with americas vaunted 2nd amendment, Russian-backed fascists just walked in and took over, and everyone is just watching them. No riots, no fighting back, just passive resistance.

I wish all of you the best of luck. I'm going to go hug my kids.

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Are they just reviewing all the accusations they made about Democrats over the past few years and just using that as a template for what they want to do.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago

So trump is going to build "housing" for 30.000 people, plus possibly hundreds of guards, who all need food, guards will need actual housing with maybefamilies who will need recreation too..

Just saying, this sounds like a VERY expensive distraction from the fact that they're working hard on robbing the US coffers blind...

Now make this for the 20 million or so, and you get to understand why the US will be bankrupt and over 4 years from now if this idiots continues this

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[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 days ago

Colombia, which eventually backed down, slammed the US' treatment of migrants since Trump came to power.

Why do they continue to repeat this narrative? Colombia wanted the migrants to be deported under humanly conditions. The US did that, now Colombia will take them. The threats of sanctions has nothing to do with it but it makes Trump look strong.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Because weak people need to tell everyone how strong they are

[-] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 103 points 3 days ago

I don't know anything but isn't Guantanamo Bay, like, kinda small?

[-] ytorf@lemmy.world 124 points 3 days ago

That’s only an issue if you assume they’ll be treated with any humanity

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 65 points 3 days ago

Don't worry, they'll find a way to pack people in. Maybe some kind of high energy weight loss system like their role models used in the 1940s?

This is bad juju. The detention camps from the first cycle with this fascists was nothing on what we're seeing ramping up here.

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[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

At it's peak it held about 800 prisoners, kinda impossibly small for the numbers discussed here.

Edit-- Well, trump did say "Most people don’t even know that we have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo", I guess file me with most people. Must be incredible how they scaled up while simultaneously closing camps and losing facilities to disrepair, apparently.

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago

Call your senators

https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm?Class=1

Call your representative in the house

https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

It's "illegal" migrants now. But it will be us eventually! Do not let it get to that point. They did not win this election by a landslide, and they can only do as much damage as we let them!

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago

Mark my words- queer people will be next.

[-] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago

100%. If you look at the language they're using to describe trans people in their EOs it's clear as day where they're heading and considering they've begun holding trans people's passports indefinitely- they don't want us escaping.

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[-] SuperEars@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago

Doesn't seem like misreporting. I found other sources reporting it too.

I sent a text to those I love in any capacity, even former coworkers who've probably deleted my number. Not a group text - one by one. I think it'd be prudent for all US readers to consider doing the same.

Knowing some of you are like me, in that you might not know how to word such a text to someone not expecting it from you, I offer you my copy/pasted text:

America has a concentration camp now. I won't send you anything more...it's kind of rude that I'm sending this one. https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/donald-trump-announces-plan-to-send-migrants-guantanamo-bay/

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[-] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 days ago

Fucking hell. We were sooooooo close to finally releasing the poor souls caught up from 9/11 shit stuck here. I'm so fucking disgusted by the ruling class in this country.

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